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First Foray Fly FishingJune 20th, 2014 at 5:22:36 pm
First Foray Fly Fishing

Like that alliteration?

Finally took the plunge today for really fly fishing; up till now it was just practice casting in the yard. First time with my own fly rod; I had previously fooled around with my brother's rod, enough to know I sucked at it.

Some things to learn, things that the experienced person doesn't even think to mention to the newbie. The whole business of having the fly and line flying around overhead, and in front of you and in back of you ... the degree that you have to be sure you are totally free of vegetation, front and back and overhead, cannot be over-emphasized. There is something about the little fly and hook and the whole get-up that is extremely eager to get fouled up into anything it can. The tininess of it all seems to make it worse; any weed whatsoever is perfect for the tiny hook to just dig in and hang on for all it's worth.

Not to mention the difficulty of just dealing with the tininess period. The leader line is something like 4# test and we are practically getting microscopic here. Threading the line into the eye of the hook is much harder than threading a needle. In fact I thought a needle might come in handy to clear out the eye, but the normal sized one I grabbed was too big. The eye is that small; if any needle could fit, it'd be the smallest they make. I thought about cheating and using 8# test line, but that line is also too big to go in the eye! Tying on a fly took me about 15 minutes and after doing it twice now I'd say I'd expect it to take 5-10 minutes next time. I guess I better enjoy it while I can; once the vision gets worse with age, forget it.

The casting was outright embarrassing in more ways than one, but the fishing went well. They stock trout upstream and I keep thinking this is the way to catch one and surely they come down this way. No success with that, though. It does seem to be the way to catch fish in rapids, where a lot hang out. I caught about 12 over a few hours, none particularly big as usual here. Sunfish [yep some are pumpkinseeds I think], smallies, rock bass, all thrown back.

Pretty good way to fish and travel light I think.

It just occurred to me I don't know where I put the flies, gotta go look [g]

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Face
June 21st, 2014 at 9:56:54 am
Guess you missed that part in FWF ;)

Yes, casting with a fly rod is very much an "everybody stand back!" activity, and "everybody" especially means vegetation. A spin cast setup is easy. With a short 5' rod and a 1/16th oz lure, I can be up to my chest in brambles, cast under a willow 4" off the water, and do so from 20' away no problem. Spin casting is all wrist; as long as there's room for the rod tip to swing 6", you're in business.

Fly casting needs more room. A soccer pitch is about ample ;) That's why you almost never see a fly fisherman on the shore; the farther into the water, the farther from the trees.

Glad to see you're practicing at home. Do you have a video camera? It's not a bad way to focus on your delivery while also being able to see what's going on behind you. Like any other thing, it's all muscle memory. You want to learn the right way first before you wear a groove into mistake land. Overhead, like anything more than 10' off the ground, shouldn't be much of an issue. Your cast should be "high" because the rod is so long, but it shouldn't have much arch in it. The biggest thing for me, and it sounds like for you, is timing the back cast. As I'm sure you're learning, the swings get slower and slower as you play out line to give time for the line to play out before switching directions. Swing too fast and the line piles up and flops. Swing too late... your line dies and your fly lands in the veggies.

When you get your timing down, the height of your line should never fall lower than 4' or higher than 10' (estimated). It should pretty much go straight back and forth, back and forth, until your final cast to place the bait.

If you really spend time practicing, remember to practice different things. "Hitting your target" is only one small part, and there's a bunch of steps you have to do before that part. It would suck to find a great school of fish or a whopper that's sitting in a predicament you haven't prepared for.

However long you practice hitting the target, equal that time with these few things:

The loop - The line traveling back and forth during your set up. I can get more in depth if you continue to pursue this, but for now, just work on timing to maintain the height of your loop. Practice the distances you'll see at your crick. I do short, med, and long, but the Catt is big. I'm not sure if you'll need 40' - 50' casts where you are. You want to wear a groove into your muscle memory so it's there. It will help from snapping too fast and piling up, or snapping too slow and letting it fall in the veggies. And move around when you do it. Take a few step around the yard, do it close to the apple tree, close to the house, close to the truck. You're not going to cast from a yard out in the field. Give yourself obstacles.

The lie - Remember not to point on your final delivery cast. You want your fly to be the furthest thing away from you with your line relatively straight back to you. You have to sort of lob it toward the target to get that lie. Stop the rod at 90* to the ground, 70*, 50*, see what angle gives you the best lie. Point at the target like a spin cast and you're going to throw a pile of line on your target.

The roll - If you cast to the other side of the crick, your line will often land in faster current than your fly. Your line will get dragged ahead of the fly and will end up pulling it in an unrealistic manner. The thick line will also spook wary fish. You need to get than line upstream without moving the fly. Just like snapping a garden hose or extension cord over a yard obstacle, a quick upward-then-sideways motion with your rod will snap the line up out of the water and upstream. Practice doing this until you can move the slack in your line upstream without moving the fly.

Practice these things =)

And buy yourself a $5 pair of cheaters. The Fed needs them too, and you're traveling so light, they're easy to tuck into a pocket. And go easy on the coffee. Even if you can see, it's hard to thread that needle if your hands are shaking ;)

After today I have another week off from racing. Assuming I won't have repairs, I'll try to get out and make a video so you can visualize what I'm talking about.
odiousgambit
June 21st, 2014 at 11:50:00 am
Good ol' Face. I should buy you a beer, and will as soon as you give me your email address. Sorry if you want bitcoins, I know nothing about em.

>a $5 pair of cheaters

what are those?

Ummmm, something tells me if you saw me in action you'd get so frayed from jumping up and down it would call for cold beers applied immediately!
Face
June 21st, 2014 at 8:20:48 pm
Cheaters? They're, well... old people glasses XD

They're just a $20 or less, generic pair of glasses you can get at any drug store. I think they just magnify things. I'm not really familiar, I have 20/10 vision (a freebie to make up for my colorblindness, I guess). But many on the WarWagon pass them around when making the lineup, or reading directions, or tying fly fishing knots =p

Just wait until you a hold of tapered line. Used for small, finicky fish, it starts out at about 8# where it connects to the fly line, and tapers down to little more than spider's silk at the fly end. I can't even use the first 2' or so because I snap it just tying the knot.
odiousgambit
June 22nd, 2014 at 4:43:36 am
The set-up I bought does have tapered leader, and that is a problem, yes. I wound up cutting off the first bit by accident I think. Box says it all is 5# btw.

Yeah, maybe I ought to get some of those glasses.
Face
June 23rd, 2014 at 6:54:23 pm
I assume the # rating must be the end that attaches to the fly line. I don't even think you can rate what ties to the fly. I'm familiar with ultra light gear, that's just about the only stuff I use, even today. I have one 6.5', med-heavy, "just-in-case" rod, but my other two that I use for crick chubs, Erie smallies, and Catt steelhead are 5.5' microlight spinning rigs with 4# test. Even 8# feels like weed whacker string to me, and the first thing I do when buying new gear is stripping what comes on it and respooling with 4#.

If 4# is normal to me, I dare not think of what that spider's silk must be rated at. 6oz? XD

In any case, I don't ever use it, and probably wouldn't suggest it. If you're in the Adirondacks after native brookies, or in Idaho after native cutthroat, sure. Use the specialized finicky gear. But if you're home going after aggressive sunnies and smallies, just use normal 4#-6# mono. It's cheaper, easier to deal with, more familiar, and works every bit as good.

A little tip on the leader, since we're talking about it. I usually max my leader length out at about 80%-ish of my rod length. You basically want your leader to be long to maximize distance between the fly and the spooky fly line. But if you get too long, you'll find issues. I don't know about you, but when walking I either have the fly in my off hand, or attached to the hook holder on the rod. When you have the fly here, you want the "free" line, that is, the line off the tip of your rod, to include about 6" of fly line. As you may have seen (or will see eventually), if you get any longer, the connection between the leader and fly line will back up passed the last eye. Usually this eye is tiny, and the nail knot or blood knot will get jammed in the eye when you want to begin fishing.

This gets maddeningly frustrating if you move a lot, or if you miss a fish because your first cast gets all jacked up. Keep that leader out of the eyes!
odiousgambit
June 24th, 2014 at 1:47:05 pm
>Keep that leader out of the eyes!

yep, learned that right away

as for the other, I was going by this
Quote: link
Remember this Formula!

Fly Line Weight = Fly Reel Weight = Fly Rod Weight.


http://www.hooked-on-flies.com/fly_lines.htm

what I got from this is that my ready-to-fish get-up is 5# straight across the board when it says 5# on the box

Uncracked Fish MysteryJune 14th, 2014 at 4:57:15 am
Was back at my favorite "private" fishing hole yesterday; good for the soul. I was in a mood for hook, line, sinker, cork and worm fishing and got my fill!

First cast caught a smallie; almost every cast got some action. But I was pondering one thing: the typical pattern for me [if the fishing is good] seems to be this:

*catch the first 2 or so right away like it was nothing
*after that, the action might be good but the fish keep "outsmarting" you. Expert bait thieves that get your bait but don't get hooked. Next, clever acrobats that get off the hook somehow. Then some kind of devil that hooks hard, seems big, and somehow dives into a rock ledge and gets the hook stuck in the rocks! I marvel at this last sometimes. Finally, you catch a few more fish, which reassures me I didn't forget how to do it or something.

All this adds to the fun, really, but what is the explanation? Face?

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Face
June 14th, 2014 at 10:33:15 pm
An explanation of the pattern? Is that what you're asking?

I'll take a whack =)

Catching fish right away, especially now, is common. This is one of the true hot runs for bass, chubs, sunnies, and the like. Everything should be done spawning and looking to put weight back on. Everything should be abandoning nests as most things have hatched, and are looking to put weigh back on. And the water temps are in the 60s nearing 70, ramping up their metabolism. Things will calm down in a bit, especially once the water reaches bath temps. But right now, life is good =)

If the bite turned off, it'd be easier to explain. First, a fighting fish spooks the rest. That makes them skittish or puts them in full on "hide mode". Second, fish release a chemical when stressed. Musky and pike actually have "bathrooms" where they will defecate away from their hunting grounds, as the chemical from the prey they chased and ate is expelled with their excrement and scares the other fish away. But, your bite isn't turning off. You're just not catching.

My first thought, the "thieves", is sunnies. Even the hyper aggressive pumpkinseed is no match for a bass. If you throw something in the water equidistant from all fish, the bass will outrun and out power it 100 times out of 100. Bass with their giant mouths and inhalation mode of taking food aren't going to pick a bait off a hook. A sunny, on the other hand, have teeny mouths and eat with a sharp little suck. You may have heard it before if they're feeding on the surface. It sounds like a wet "click", like if you created suction between your tongue and palate and broke it by opening your mouth. Most times that suck will pull the hook into their mouth. But if the hook is big or hits their mouth in a way that the point doesn't enter, they can suck a bait right off. Especially one without much substance, like a squishy worm.

You're diving devil has me wondering. You can almost always tell what you caught without seeing it, even the ones you lose. Most fish habitually do the same thing. Smallies love to rocket. Even the ones I catch in 30' of water head right for the surface and try to touch the moon. They also pull in bursts - run, run, rest, run, run, rest..., and almost never tire. Largemouth are similar in that they love to jump, unless caught in a weed bed. If weeds are around, they'll try to bury themselves in it. But largemouth are lazy and wear out quickly. They don't have near the stamina of a smallie. Sheephead always dive right for the bottom and pull in looooong runs with short rests. But you wouldn't find them in a little crick. Suckers also dive, but even the big ones don't really fight at all. A catfish would hook hard, seem big, and dive like you described. They're the diesel trucks of the fish world. But the picture I have in my head of your crick doesn't make me think you have cats there. I dunno, maybe my picture is wrong.

So with the thousand variables and million possibilities, I'm thinking this - your first casts are gonna be hit by the hungriest fish. Of the hungriest fish, the biggest and most aggressive are gonna get there first. They're going to hammer it and swallow it. Fish on. The first fish caught are going to spook the recently fed fish and the skittish "prey/predator" fish, so they'll turn off. That leaves either some hungry but smaller fish, or the "so-so" fish that will eat but aren't starving. These so-so fish are going to nip and nibble either by lack of desire, or lack of size. Some you'll catch, some you won't.

I've been watching my garden pond fish with some amazement, and it has certainly taught me things about feeding, which will translate into catching. I've been meaning to write about it, but just been too busy =/
odiousgambit
June 15th, 2014 at 4:15:42 am
>I'll take a whack =)

gotta love Face!

We must have some non-fishermen out there scratching their heads, wondering how this can be so interesting. But Face, I don't see how anybody can dispute that you've nailed it again!

I'm a little surprised you didn't say you have experienced the diving devil too. Have you? I have caught catfish in deeper pools in similar 'criks' so it could be a catfish ... haven't caught any to prove it. This fishing hole doesnt have deep pools nearby so that isn't a "for sure"
odiousgambit
June 15th, 2014 at 4:19:03 am
PS: somebody or something I read a long time ago convinced me some hits you get fishing are fish responding to protecting their territory. I have this little swimmer lure that drives 'em nuts, sunfish and smallies both, and I swear some of it has be territorial rage.
Face
June 15th, 2014 at 8:01:06 am
Thanks, OG =)

No, I haven't caught a cat in many years. Here they live in the deep pools at the mouth of the Catt and I almost never fish there. When I fish the big crick I'm almost always using only a spinner and targeting trout or smallies. Both of them head into the air when hooked. The only other crick fishing I typically do is tossing tiny jigs or flies for crick chubs, and they aren't hitting hard or pulling like a truck =)

Territory isn't something I'm familiar with. During the spawn, sure. Fish will guard their nests and will often hit something to protect it or will mouth and move a bait to get it away. But now, smallies tend to move and cruise searching for food. My pond is showing me some of that territorial stuff. All 5 of my fish are to the point they're trained. Whether sunning in the shallow or hiding under the hyacinth, they will all group up, head up, if I approach the pond. If I start feeding, both the largemouth and the pumpkinseed will bully the bluegill, nipping them and chasing them around.

What this could also be is the predator instinct. Especially in the case of all bass, they are designed to hit anything of opportunity, no matter what. No matter how fed they are, they must go after it. All the bass I've ever kept hit everything I throw in the tank, even if their bellies are distended with food. The largemouth I have now gobbles everything it can get to. If it's already full, it'll jet out, gulp the worm or minnow or tadpole, then immediately spit it out. The bluegill and pumpkinseed then grab it up. But hungry or not, gulp it he must. It's instinct.

Luck Continues with TurkeysMay 10th, 2014 at 9:53:36 am
Spring Turkey season continues to be good to me the last few seasons. I've just been plain lucky. This time I was hunting by myself, which is more challenging. I tried to take a better picture than this, but there was no one to fan the tail out while the other guy takes the pic. Cell phone on top of that.

Hopefully you can get an idea just how pretty the bird is, although with turkeys that is hard to appreciate unless you know them a bit. It's the iridescence and brown/black combinations. The head is hard to love for the uninitiated too I guess. Gorgeous to me! That thing coming out of it's chest is its beard, a hairlike structure that's like a ponytail in the front. Beard measured 10 inches and I figure Tom weighed over 20 pounds.

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Face
May 10th, 2014 at 3:02:14 pm
Another thunder chicken for the OG household! You've certainly got me licked in that department. I've never even seen a turkey while toting a gun.

Anyways, nice bird. Gratz!
odiousgambit
May 11th, 2014 at 6:10:08 am
Thanks, Face, hear is the whole story, which a hunter likes to tell ... you and some others here will like it I assume.

It's a little harder to hunt Spring Toms by yourself, in that with 2 guys one can call and set the shooter up ahead; the shooter can just be still and wait.*

Often you locate gobblers just waiting for them to decide to start gobbling on the roost at sunup. This is a good sign if it happens. This day, however, no such luck, meaning my chances dropped by 50% at least. I was ruefully pondering whether my two buds picked the right day to blow it off. But it’s the old “you never know” and “persistence pays” and all that; after a couple of hours, a turkey sounds off in response to my call.* Sure enough, as I approach he gobbles and, wow, I realize I am too close! I have to immediately sit down at a tree, too exposed for my liking. The idea is to have total camouflage on including face mask, the tree trunk helping the camo work; but the thing is, you can’t move. You absolutely cannot let the bird see you move at all, no matter how slowly. Well, the old guy trips past me displaying, but I can’t get my gun up to shoot, he will see that.*

About to leave me, he gets behind some really thick stuff, and I decide to move now to a different spot on the trunk.* He vanishes, no sign of him. After a minute or so he confounds me by gobbling again at a distance! He keeps heading away, and I have no choice but to follow. He is still gobbling, so I get close again and set up. But now he quits making noise; after a considerable time, I go ‘uh oh’- he is wise to me. But the rules are, wait! You don’t know what he will do. By the time I am pretty sure I’ve blown it, I am looking around carefully and see a stump that looks oddly like a gobbler’s tail feathers, all spread out like a Thanksgiving picture. “Heh”, you see weird things in the woods, I’m thinking. Then the ‘stump’ slowly rotates; he has come in silent, the rascal! He’s displaying for the hen, she is to see that and they can get it on while he feels safer knocking off all that noise! Well, he gets very close, steps behind a tree, then my gun is up. As he steps out from behind the tree, he never knows what hit him. I think you can call that dying happy.

At least there was one happy hunter! Love telling the story.

If one guy is the caller, he usually has to mess with his calls, making movement; this doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of stories with the caller getting the shot instead though! The bird can be tricky about what route he takes to check it all out. I can use a mouth call, though, so I can call without moving my hands around. 3 people make more movement, that is sort of a limit. 4 people need one guy to hang back and guard the rear for unexpected approaches, it’s just too likely someone will be spotted moving. All such need to be good hunters knowing how to be still. It’s gratifying for your skills to succeed alone.


About a bird sounding off at a distance: the trickiest thing is to judge how close to get. It is as big a mistake too stay far away as it is to get too close and be seen. Also, you have to know the terrain and be sure you aren’t expecting him to cross some BS he just isn’t going to cross. I try to get just the right distance away to set up. The gobbler expects the hen to come to him for the most part.

About finally hearing a gobble: Probably his hens have quit paying attention to him and he likes the idea of this harlot a couple of hundred yards off, ready to rock and roll he thinks. This is a wary creature, the turkey, though, and he will be quite cautious anyway [most of the time, and this guy was]


About not moving: in my younger days, I practiced moving as slow as the minute hand on a clock. Seriously. This is do-able and works. The eye has receptors for movement, and you will notice your own eyes do not see a minute hand moving. Unfortunately, for a turkey this has to be more perfect than I can quite manage, plus an older guy shakes too much [g]. It is absolutely astonishing how fast a turkey takes off once one sees you move; true of many animals.

About moving in the exposed spot: this was risky, the bird would hear it, but should think it is the hen. I expected to see him check it out, and maybe he did. Often the Tom will get in thick stuff and just send his head up like a sub with a periscope. If so [I didn't see it] he probably didn’t like what he saw or heard but wasn’t really spooked. He could have spooked from my move, but it was my only move to get a shot. You never figure you’ll get another chance to get the bird to come in to your calls. For what he actually did do, possibly he thought the area was too exposed too.
odiousgambit
May 11th, 2014 at 6:12:49 am
grrr. Here is the whole story, not 'hear' is the whole story. A typo I am prone too, alas.

Just Psyched Out Fly Fishing?April 24th, 2014 at 1:38:05 pm
Well, I took the plunge and bought a fly fishing rig that was ready to go.



Practiced a little bit with it and got puzzled. Why did I think this was so hard? The last time I tried it I used an older brother's fly rod and something about it discouraged me. I will even say *he* possibly discouraged me, which would be ironic, as he has been super as far as encouraging me generally to keep up with hunting and fishing, above the call of duty really. But you know how it is with older brothers. Some look of disapproval? Some sign of disappointment that I didn't measure up to his skill level immediately? Just me being too hard on myself?

I can't remember what was so lacking in my casting [it was eons ago when I tried it]. With this out of the box thing, I think I'll do OK. No doubt I'll get better, cast further and more accurately as I go along. Maybe the el cheapo rig is perfect for me somehow.

On the other hand, as far as any other aspect of fly fishing goes, I have no idea of what the F I'm doing. We'll have to see how it goes. Stay tuned.

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Face
April 25th, 2014 at 7:44:29 am
First, stop lamenting your costs. Cheap is good. They all slam in the door the same ;) Bitch about high prices, not low.

The act of doing it is just forgetting spin rod casting. Ash is having a bitch of a time with it, so much so that she’s getting pissed before we even leave the house lol. The first thing is you can’t snap it forward. No wrist. It’s all rod. Just gently swing it forward and backward. Try to snap it and your line is gonna wad and hit you in the back of the head.

Second is speed. At the beginning, your arm doesn’t stop moving. As soon as you back cast, the line is already stretched to the max because it’s short. As you play out line, you have to give it pause to allow the line to splay out and reach maximum length before switching directions. Once you got 60’ feet out, you spend more time paused then you do swinging. Swish, swish, swish,..swish,.. swish,….. swish,…… swish,…………… swish,………………….. swish,…………………………….. swish,……………………………………………………………………..

Third, and maybe most important, is you don’t point your rod. Spin casting you basically snap it right at where you want the lure to land. Fly rods you sort of lob in, as if you were shooting a basketball with your rod. Let’s say straight up and down is 0*. If you end at 90* with your rod horizontal and pointing where you want your lure to be, your line will hit the water in a wad, make a disturbance, and fall short. If you end with it at 30*, pointing more up than out like a lob, your line will play out and lay on the water in a perfect lie, and way out at the end will be your lure, well away from the thick, bright fly line.

After that, it’s just “curling”. You know when the extension cord is in the way of your vacuum, so you kind of snap the cord up and over by hand? And it causes a sort of wave that rolls the cord up and away from the vacuum? Do the same with your fly line. “Curl” it so your lure leads and is the first thing the fish sees, as opposed to the thick ass fly line. This is assuming you’re fishing in a current, of course.

All of this stuff I could GoPro, if necessary =)

Start with your bluegill and crick chubs. Those things will whack anything near them, so you don’t have to worry about super clean casts and perfect curls. It’ll keep you entertained as you practice. Just remember to practice. Just because it works for sunnies doesn’t mean you should stop refining your game =)
odiousgambit
April 25th, 2014 at 9:34:26 am
> [forget] spin rod casting

interesting.

> 60 feet

in the air at once? really? something tells me Ash and me could commiserate under the brow-beating of you and my brother both [vbg]. Probably unintentional in both cases.

Thanks, sounds like really good advice.
Face
April 25th, 2014 at 12:49:34 pm
Interesting? No. It's crucial.

I dunno about you, but with a spin cast, I use almost no arm. My arm raises to get the rod up and away from my head, but the whole forward flick to send the bait out is probably 95% wrist-only. You absolutely cannot do that with a fly rod.

Any "snap" is gonna jack up the flow of your line. About the best thing I can compare it to is cracking a whip. Try to muscle it and it just falls limp and flacid. You got to have that flow. Imagine you have a paint brush in your hand. If you're flailing your arm enough or snapping your wrist enough to fling paint off it, you're doing it wrong.

Quote: OG
> 60 feet

in the air at once? really? something tells me Ash and me could commiserate under the brow-beating of you and my brother both [vbg]. Probably unintentional in both cases.


Some of the books I've read say that 90' is easily possible with the right technique. Personally, my environment couldn't allow that. You've seen where I fish, the cliffs and the trees are right there, and the cricks themselves are only 3' - 20' wide. Almost all my casts are about 15', and I'd judge them as very good. Increasing that to even 25' puts me in the land of "sloppy".

One time I was messing around and maybe got 40' feet out, just seeing how big I could go. But I fell into that area where common sense is actually wrong, and tried to muscle it forward because "it was so much line". I whipped it forward aggressively and it all fell in a heap behind me.

It's a totally different experience. There's that saying that "if fishing is religion, then fly fishing is high church". There's a whole new world about to open up before you. Take your time and revel in the experience of learning. The skill will come =)
odiousgambit
April 26th, 2014 at 6:03:40 am
>The skill will come

thanks for all the support. I think so too; physical competency does seem to come slower to me than others, but on something like this, it comes.

Hunting is Like ThatApril 14th, 2014 at 12:17:09 pm
Just watched an episode of "Riggo on the Range" where apparently they wanted to show Riggins and some other hunters shooting a bunch of Partridges, but over what looked like three days, they only got a couple of shots and one bird. I'm here to tell you hunting can definitely be like that, and there are few veteran hunters who won't tell you they just enjoy the outdoors and take it in stride. For most, if they had to consistently bag game, they'd give it up instead.

There are other disappointments. This week was supposed to include hunting for me, but it fell through. Yep, I could still go, but the conditions would be less than ideal, and this time of year I definitely prefer going with at least one companion. So, having set the time aside, I'm going to try to hit a casino instead for my jollies. I'm glad I have the alternative.

BTW if you like hunting, "Riggo on the Range" is a great show. All of those other hunting shows I dislike; the sponsors tend to screw them up with their baloney, and usually I start to suspect what they are showing is either not "free chase" or for some other reason too much like shooting fish in a barrel. Riggins is a real hunter and you can just tell it isn't about that kind of stuff. In fact when I picture what would be the ideal hunting life for me, Riggins seems to live it.

For a disclaimer, I have always been a Redskins fan too, so there's that.

http://www.riggoontherange.com/

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Fleastiff
April 19th, 2014 at 1:45:57 pm
There seems to be a renewal in the Farm to Fork restaurants and Eat Locally movements but this often involves vegetarians as well. Lately, hunters and anglers have chipped in with culinary treasures involving hunting and fishing. Dressing fish and game is not often talked about these days but its useless to be a hunter and not to also be a butcher.
odiousgambit
April 21st, 2014 at 7:00:57 am
>its useless to be a hunter and not to also be a butcher

You certainly need to be a cook. Back in my Granddad's day, the womenfolk would be expected to clean and cook the game. But even my Dad found out he can forget that; a revolt had taken place when it came to the cleaning.

Some wives will cook game. My wife especially likes to cook any turkeys or venison and does a great job.

There is such a thing as a woman hunter, but in my experience the ones who participate like it to join in on a family thing.
Fleastiff
May 5th, 2014 at 4:33:01 pm
>There is such a thing as a woman hunter, but in my experience the ones who participate like it to join in on a family thing.
No longer. Annual Texas event is a women only Hunting and Fishing school for Empowered Women conducted by some famous woman sports person. Something like two grand a day.
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