God loves you. So what?

Quote: FrGamble

it might be important to respect the different ways young men and women learn. Do you have a problem with that? Is that misogynistic?
.

That it says men are more capable than women,
that you can't train men and women together
because men are more 'able'? You want to know
if that's misogynistic? Really?

Obviously the Church was forced by the truth
to change their minds. And mark my words,
they will let women into the priesthood, they
will have no choice. And women will shine
in that position, they will outdo the men as
they always do in almost every other job on
the planet.

Quote: FrGamble

I think he would agree with me, did not have the best priestly formation. .

He doesn't agree at all, he just laughs and
shakes his head when I tell him you say it.
You don't like it that he was smart enough
to get away from the Church, so you blame
it on his training, not his obvious intelligence.

I'm sorry but hasn't he shared with both of us that his training on celibacy was non-existent?

Quote: Evenbob

That it says men are more capable than women,
that you can't train men and women together
because men are more 'able'?

I read it again and don't know where you find the idea that men are more capable or more able than women. Let's follow Dalex's lead and stick to the text.

Quote:

And mark my words,
they will let women into the priesthood, they
will have no choice. And women will shine
in that position, they will outdo the men as
they always do in almost every other job on
the planet.

As I have said many times women would and could do an excellent job as priests. In some ways they would naturally excel at the job, in other ways men do. The priesthood is not about who would do best, but who is called to sacramentally represent Christ the High Priest in the worshipping community and who is called to serve them. Women in the Church can and do excel right now in counseling, leading, speaking, and praying with others.

Quote: FrGamble

I read it again and don't know where you find the idea that men are more capable or more able than women.
.

This:

'and much less equality'

The one thing women have fought for
is equality with men. In pay, in job
rights, in voting rights, in marriage
rights, in property owning rights,
in church leadership rights, in rights
to hold public office, and in a hundred
other ways.

I'm sure you will spin it a different way,
the statement in bold type is meant to
empower women, not hold them back.
To make them beautiful in their separateness.

Go ahead, I know exactly what you're
all about.

It is hard to read "and much less equally" and not get an impression that inferiority on one side or the other is being implied.

You can combine that statement with the chuch's opposition to women's suffrage near that point in time and draw a conclusion about which sex they think is inferior.

The phrase about equality is referring to making sure we don't ignore the distinct differences in the ways men and women learn. The document is especially concerned about how having men and women learn together can lead to distractions and promiscuity. This text written in 1929 is not talking about the quality of education men or women receive, but just pointing out something many educators today swear by, namely single sex education can be of great benefit. If you combine this with the fact that the Church was on the forefront of educating women through monasteries and convents and that the Church was the first to give women the freedom to govern freely and take responsibilities and authority that was unheard of in the secular world. I think you can draw a conclusion that they see both sexes as equal.

Quote: FrGamble

I think you can draw a conclusion that they see both sexes as equal.

Only if you don't know how to read. You
did just what I said you would do. No matter
what, your job is to put a positive spin on
anything the Church spews out, to make
it look like they're saying something else
entirely. You dance around and twist things
all the time, it's an amazing performance.

It's terrifying to imagine an entire church full
of people like you 500 years ago. Spinning
their webs, twisting the truth to fit their needs,
forcing people to do their bidding. All of it
in the name of some silly god who doesn't even
exist, just to feed the Church's vanity and ego.

Luckily we live in an age of free information and
the stranglehold of the Church is gone. They've
been stripped naked and we can see what they
really are, as they go bankrupt paying out hush
money to those they've wronged. They thought
they would get away with it forever, but alas,
even gods people get caught in the end.

You should read this:

John Paul II's Letter to Women

Quote: FrGamble

You should read this:

John Paul II's Letter to Women

Just another example of the Church having
rules written in sand, they can be changed
on a whim. You think you can escape the
past by ignoring it.