Is Satan Real
February 6th, 2015 at 12:06:24 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Originality is very scarce. Everything in the NT is borrowed from other myths and cultures, every last bit of it. No originality there at all. Even things like the last supper and Jesus being tempted by Satan in the wilderness show up in other myths that predate Jesus by centuries. Virgin births and miracles and rising from the dead and physical ascension into heaven are very common. Why should we believe this one over all the others. What would have been original is for Jesus to preach for 100 years, be killed multiple times and be resurrected multiple times. Lots of witnesses, lots of history. Instead it's a tired rerun of well established myths. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 7th, 2015 at 11:56:43 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
First of all why believe the events surrounding Christ's life more than others? Historical fact. The difference between Christianity and these other myths is a date. It is the claim that this really happened and evidence supporting it in the historical person of Jesus Christ who has changed the world. It is the Incarnation, which other religions dreamed a little about, but nothing close to the reality Christians believe - namely that God became one of us, true God and true man. He was born into our world at the beginning of the Common Era, from which our very years are based. These myths and common stories from many cultures are the pre-Christian dreams that Christ makes a reality. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 7th, 2015 at 12:41:49 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It says so in the Bible and everything in the Bible is true. It says so in the Bible. Circular logic, we went thru this already. Religions like this eventually die out, they are based on 'facts' and those 'facts' can't be proved. We will always have Buddhism and Hinduism because they are not fact based, they're founded in ideas and spiritualism. In 300 years the base of the Christian religion will be in a shambles and the Vatican will be a religious artifact museum. Trace it's downfall to the printing press. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 7th, 2015 at 7:14:39 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
We have and here you go circling back. When have I ever made such an argument?
They would indeed die out, long before now, if those facts weren't true. Especially in the unprecedented increase of information in our modern world things that are based on falsehoods die out very quickly. The Egyptian gods of Isis and Oris wouldn't last three days when subjected to the scholarship and scrutiny of today. Yet what must be maddening to you is that Christianity doesn't die out and will not, because truth does not die. It wanes, especially when people ignore it or lie about it, but the truth will out. Thank God for the printing press, the internet, and the increase of knowledge it only ensures that no matter how hard people try to quash the truth they will not be able to do so. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 7th, 2015 at 7:34:06 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not at all, why would I possibly care what it does. As long as they aren't trying to forcibly convert me and torturing me and confiscating my property and killing me, it's just a quaint relic of the past that eventually collapse under it's own weight, as it's slowly doing now. Shall we talk again about the dire shortage of priests and nuns? Since 1975 there are 33% fewer priests in the US, average age is 63. Yet there are 43% more church members, do mostly to the influx of Catholic immigrants, like illegal Mexicans and Central Americans. There is nobody in the Vatican who believes this can continue without giving priests the right to marry, and letting women into the priesthood. The new pope has even said he's taking it under advisement. And if any of that happens, say goodby to the religion as you know it. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 8th, 2015 at 7:00:21 AM permalink | |
1nickelmiracle Member since: Mar 5, 2013 Threads: 24 Posts: 623 | Antagonists versus well intentioned equals fool's errand. |
June 6th, 2015 at 4:48:58 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Apparently Satan is real in MN. Now they're charging the archdiocese for covering up ongoing abuse and failing to protect kids from priests. They already declared bankruptcy, with means if parents sue they don't get squat. Nice, huh. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/05/us-usa-minnesota-archdiocese-idUSKBN0OL23W20150605 If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |