Is Satan Real
January 12th, 2015 at 12:45:16 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
(loudly) ARE YOU SELLING INDULGENCES???? ;) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
January 12th, 2015 at 12:47:15 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Doesn't make sense, does it. If Satan is against god, shouldn't he be rewarding sinners for also being against god? Instead, it's more like he works for god, punishing those who misbehaved. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 12th, 2015 at 1:36:13 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Exactly. Even the thought of losing God's love is worse than actually being boiled alive in oil.
Because... um... even in sin, God loves you? So, even though you were bad, and you didn't repent, and you found yourself in hell, you are still God's son or daughter. Your loss of God grieves God, so too will he grieve your punishment. (How am I doing?)
You've been to Vegas in May. You've not been to Grand Forks in February. There's probably a reason, and it's probably your answer.
Of course not. Selling indulgences is not possible because it is against the church. It's happened before? Well, lost child of God, fallen from the one true path, against God's will, so on and so forth. I can't sell and you can't buy. The good news is that salvation is available to you anyway. Just repent and ask His forgiveness, let your fellow brothers and sisters shoulder your load, and make an effort to be a better person. Boom. Heaven. Maybe purgatory first, but whatever. I'll save a seat for you ;) I wonder what sort of sin I'm committing here? Father Face, atheist pastor. Sounds like a TV show. Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
January 12th, 2015 at 2:09:28 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Fill a bathtub with 2/3s water, 1/3 ice chopped ice and get in. That should give an idea of one of those. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
January 12th, 2015 at 2:29:55 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Prophet: a person who speaks for God or a deity False: not according with truth or fact; incorrect "The Beast from the earth, according to the Book of Revelation and also referred to as the False Prophet, has often been equated with an individual Antichrist" Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
January 12th, 2015 at 2:40:13 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
How would anyone know?
I'm asking why Satan is helping God punish sinners, if Satan is against God's designs. It makes no sense.
I've been to Vegas in June ;) But I don't recall feeling burned alive.
I saw a guy in Vegas advertising them for sale, but I don't think he was a real priest.
So you're saying we won't meet in this life? ;) I've done things I regret, none involved God (or Zeus, Athena or any other deity; though one fashion faux pas might have been an offense to Aphrodite). Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
January 12th, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Because the Bible tells me so. (I think I'm getting the hang of this ;))
Because Satan isn't punishing you. He's attempting to hurt God. You are His most favorite creation, one to which he gave all His love. What better way to hurt someone than to hurt the ones He loves?
A real priest deals only in love, and issues it at no cost. All you need do is ask. (Seriously, though... I am getting good at this =D)
Not if you're going to Vegas in bloody JUNE! Unless you can fireman carry a 200lb man while wearing heels ;)
Again with the literal LOL. "Offense to Aphrodite". That's good stuff XD Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
January 12th, 2015 at 3:20:31 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
But that makes no sense. If he wanted to hurt god, he would reward sinners, further separating them from god. But instead he's god's prison warden. Not very well thought out. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 12th, 2015 at 3:35:45 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Aww, crap. Hold on, I haven't fully dressed yet... Ok. And lo! Again we talk about The Deceiver, and etc, a ding-a-ling and we pray. I fell into colloquialism. My fault, not yours. Satan doesn't "punish". Satan doesn't have the power to punish. Satan, on his own, is really quite weak. He can't make you do anything, force you to do anything, or do anything directly to you. He can only whisper. And what he whispers is deception. He's easy to resist. He's no warlock or mage. He's no charmer like Dracula. He just whispers, looking for someone weak. For someone who has turned from God. The "punishment" is God's and God's alone. Only He has the power to punish. Your punishment, in hell, is the loss of His love and His light. Oh sure, Satan will torment you. But he doesn't out of punishment, or out of cooperation with God. He does so because he hates all things God, and you are a thing of God. He does so because he's a scared old mutt, biting at anything within his reach. Satan doesn't punish. He can't. Only God can. Whatever looks like "punishment" is just the actions of an evil, mindless tormenter. (My feet hurt) Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
January 12th, 2015 at 3:43:01 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
But Satan is never portrayed as mindless. He is clever and wily beyond measure. He's the trickster, the deceiver. It's all myth made to scare children anyway, why do the details matter. Truth is, crime does pay, that's why people do it. Most crimes go unpunished. Satan was invented to scare people and it works, to a certain extent. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |