Was Jesus God?
August 8th, 2016 at 11:50:02 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Wow, please read the Bible. Jesus is constantly forbidding those for whom He preforms a miracle or healing from telling people who He is. He is always silencing the demons who definitely know who He is from telling anyone as they are driven away. The last thing Jesus wants to be know as is some kind of magician or miracle man. Also you are very wrong about what you think is common in the 1st century. Can you name any other person in that time period that was claimed to be of virgin birth? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
August 8th, 2016 at 11:58:11 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Even more damning, then. He would have told them his mom was a virgin and it would just be another secret revealed after his death. Of course there were no 'miracles', it was all made up decades after he died. Him keeping things secret is just a plot devise invented to add drama to the story. Obviously. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 8th, 2016 at 12:09:32 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Hatshepsut, for one. Her story claims her father, the one true god Amun, came to her mother Ahmose, under the guise of her husband, Thutmose I, and touched an Ankh to her nose, which resulted in Hatshepsut's eventual birth. Hatshepsut was Ahmose's first born child, so do the math. Keeping things in the dynasty, Amun does the same to bring forth Amenhotep III. Oh, there's the one true god Athena who sprang forth from the head of the one true god Zeus (and she came fully grown and armed!). And the one true god Aphrodite arose from the sea after the testes of the one true god Ouranos were cut off and cast into the sea by the one true god Chronos. See? It's a common mythological device. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 8th, 2016 at 1:22:22 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Lest we forget, there's also a Macedonian king known as Alexander the Great. His mother, Olympias, claimed that on the eve of the consummation of her marriage to Philip, she dreamed that her womb was struck by a thunder bolt, causing a flame that spread "far and wide" before dying away. Later on when alexander conquered (or liberated) Egypt, he journeyed to the oasis at Siwa (located in modern Libya), where the oracle pronounced him to be the son of Amun. This is clear-cut confirmation that Alexander of Macedon was the son of Zeus, born to the virgin queen Olympias. How else can one explain his miraculous string of complete and utter victories over every foe? Who's to say Zeus-Amun did not conceive Alexander both to spread Greek civilization widely, even unto Persia and India, and to shelter the nascent city of Rome from powerful enemies which might have conquered it? With the large, unified Persian empire gone, and the major powers now squabbling and fighting each other for control of Alexander's conquests, Rome was safe for centuries. This explains why Alexander sacrificed himself in his prime. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 8th, 2016 at 2:01:21 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He replied, "You say that I am." Luke 22:70 English Standard Version And they all said, "Are You the Son of God, then?" And He said to them, "Yes, I am." Luke 22:70 New American Standard Bible "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
August 8th, 2016 at 3:13:36 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
See now these are some myths! They are very different than a poor young girl from a backwater town being visited by an angel who humbly invites her, who is full of grace to participate in God's plan by miraculously conceiving and giving birth to a son who is true God and true man. In fact I struggle to find hardly any similarities between them at all. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
August 8th, 2016 at 3:19:37 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
As are yours. I keep saying there's nothing remarkable about a group of Hebrews setting up a myth, right when Rome institutionalized the practice. And I see nothing intrinsically more valuable about Hebrew mythology than any other. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 8th, 2016 at 3:27:37 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
It is fairly obvious that Hebrew myths are not as fantastical and phony. Maybe that is because they are real. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
August 8th, 2016 at 3:29:39 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Maybe they're all real and should be called facts and not myths. Maybe every story ever made up is real. Is that the world you live in? If your myth is real, they all are. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 8th, 2016 at 3:34:18 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Wow, again no reason to go all crazy on us here. I think you can use your common sense to determine what is fact and what is myth. There is a genre of myths that Joe Campell talks a lot about. You can easily recognize that cut off testicles thrown into the sea giving birth to someone is a myth. An unknown teenage girl who has a quiet visit by an angel and lives in obscurity most of her life is not written as a myth but history, the history of salvation. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |