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August 31st, 2016 at 9:42:47 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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London, Paris and Frankfut are basically at the center of the land hemisphere. Since they can't fly to Sydney, they have no reason to push the technology of jet airplanes into ultra long flights.

In August 1967 Aerolineas Argentinas established their non-stop Boeing 707 service on a 10,062-kilometre route between Madrid and Buenos Aires. Many airlines have no particular need to fly much further, half a century later. If you've forgotten, 10,000 km is by definition 1/4 of the world's circumference and the radius of the above projections.

KM-longest flight for airline
10,035 Royal Jordanian Amman-Queen Alia to Chicago-O'Hare
10,062 Air Europa Madrid to Buenos Aires-Ezeiza
10,222 Kuwait Airways Kuwait to New York-JFK
10,223 Vietnam Airlines Ho Chi Minh City to London-Heathrow
10,260 Beijing Capital Airlines Hangzhou to Madrid
10,309 Swiss International Air Lines Singapore to Zürich
10,610 Malaysia Airlines Kuala Lumpur-International to London-Heathrow
10,699 Iberia Madrid to Santiago de Chile
10,699 LATAM Chile Madrid to Santiago de Chile
10,854 Japan Airlines New York-JFK to Tokyo-Narita
10,868 All Nippon Airways Washington-Dulles to Tokyo-Narita
11,058 Turkish Airlines İstanbul-Atatürk to Los Angeles
11,111 British Airways London-Heathrow to Buenos Aires-Ezeiza
11,114 Asiana Airlines New York-JFK to Seoul-Incheon
11,136 Aerolíneas Argentinas Rome-Fiumicino to Buenos Aires-Ezeiza
11,147 Singapore Airlines San Francisco to Hong Kong
11,272 Aeroméxico Mexico City to Tokyo-Narita
11,437 KLM Amsterdam to Buenos Aires-Ezeiza
11,477 Korean Air Atlanta to Seoul-Incheon
11,477 Lufthansa Frankfurt to Buenos Aires-Ezeiza
11,549 Ethiopian Airlines Washington-Dulles to Addis Ababa
11,652 Air France Paris-Charles de Gaulle to Santiago de Chile
...
11,691 Pakistan International Airlines Karachi to Toronto-Pearson
11,698 Air China Beijing-Capital to Johannesburg
11,706 Garuda Indonesia London-Heathrow to Jakarta-Soekarno Hatta
11,761 Hainan Airlines Boston to Shanghai-Pudong
11,777 TAAG Angola Airlines Luanda to Beijing-Capital
11,819 Philippine Airlines Los Angeles to Cebu
11,897 China Eastern Airlines New York-JFK to Shanghai-Pudong
11,903 Alitalia Rome-Fiumicino to Santiago de Chile
11,933 Air New Zealand Houston-Intercontinental to Auckland
...
12,051 Virgin Australia Los Angeles to Sydney
12,189 El Al Tel Aviv-Ben Gurion to Los Angeles
12,565 Air India Mumbai to Newark
12,565 China Airlines New York-JFK to Taipei-Taoyuan
12,569 Air Canada Toronto-Pearson to Hong Kong
12,776 EVA Air Houston-Intercontinental to Taipei-Taoyuan
12,825 South African Airways Johannesburg to New York-JFK
12,878 China Southern Airlines New York-JFK to Guangzhou
12,990 Cathay Pacific New York-JFK to Hong Kong
13,072 American Airlines Dallas/Fort Worth to Hong Kong
13,367 Qatar Airways Doha to Los Angeles
13,409 Saudia Jeddah to Los Angeles
13,502 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi to Los Angeles
13,582 Delta Air Lines Johannesburg to Atlanta
13,593 United Airlines San Francisco to Singapore
13,804 Qantas Dallas/Fort Worth to Sydney
14,203 Emirates Auckland to Dubai-International


Quote: Nareed
Does anyone else see the irony in this?


I can't sort this thread out anymore. Nareed can you point out what you were thinking last year?
August 31st, 2016 at 9:53:00 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
I can't sort this thread out anymore. Nareed can you point out what you were thinking last year?


Do you think I can sort it out? :)

I do find it ironic BA should have a long flight to Argentina, given the recent history of the two countries.
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:55:26 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: Pacomartin
I can't sort this thread out anymore. Nareed can you point out what you were thinking last year?


One assume's she's pointing out the route between a British city and an Argentinian city, two countries who had a bust up in 1982 Falklands War (Invasion of the Malvinas if you want).

So no odder than say Berlin to Paris, Tokyo to San Francisco or THR to BGW.
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August 31st, 2016 at 10:23:09 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: TheCesspit
So no odder than say Berlin to Paris, Tokyo to San Francisco or THR to BGW.


I don't recognize the third.

But before WWII France was Germany's biggest trading partner. After WWII, we had European integration, with France and Germany among the founding member sand prime movers. So it's not that odd. The US occupied Japan and pretty much imposed a constitution and a real democracy right after WWII. I'm less certain what reconstruction aid, if any, the US provided. There has been much diplomacy and alliances since then. The US has several bases in Japan, which got heavy use in the Koran War.

As far as I know, the UK and Argentina lack historical ties (though a British force tried to invade the viceroyalty of Rio de la Plata in the XIX Century right before independence fever grabbed the Western hemisphere), or much in the way of diplomacy after the war. Don't the Brits still keep a few token troops and gear in the Falklands?
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August 31st, 2016 at 11:22:35 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: Nareed
I don't recognize the third.


You have google just as well as I do.

Quote:

As far as I know, the UK and Argentina lack historical ties (though a British force tried to invade the viceroyalty of Rio de la Plata in the XIX Century right before independence fever grabbed the Western hemisphere), or much in the way of diplomacy after the war. Don't the Brits still keep a few token troops and gear in the Falklands?


It's not really 'token', as the Falklands are a British Overseas Territory, and the vast majority of the 3,000 inhabitants are British Citizens. I think having a military base there is no odder than the US having one in Guam.

British trade has always been world wide, so while maybe few diplomatic ties, there's always been trade and commerce. Tinned corned beef was mostly imported from Argentina until the crisis. Though I'm not sure anyone eats that much any more. Hmmm, I really fancy a corned beef hash now. The tinned stuff is very different from the fresh cuts you might get in the deli.
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August 31st, 2016 at 12:55:21 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: TheCesspit
It's not really 'token',


Do you think what they have there could repel another invasion by a banana republic?
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August 31st, 2016 at 1:58:00 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Nareed
As far as I know, the UK and Argentina lack historical ties (though a British force tried to invade the viceroyalty of Rio de la Plata in the XIX Century right before independence fever grabbed the Western hemisphere), or much in the way of diplomacy after the war.


My knowledge of Argentine history is largely based on Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyrics. I do remember the last lines of the Rainbow tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ47jpn8YW4
Quote: Andrew Lloyd Webber / Rainbow Tour lyrics


PERON
People of Europe! I send you the Rainbow of Argentina!

CHE
Spain has fallen to the charms of Evita
She can do what she likes--it doesn't matter much
She's the New World Madonna with the golden touch
She filled a bull-ring--forty-five thousand seater
But if you're prettier than General Franco
That's not hard

Franco's reign in Spain should see out the forties
So you've just acquired an ally who
Looks as secure in his job as you
More important, current political thought is
Your wife's a phenomenal asset
Your trump card

PERON and OFFICERS
Let's hear it for the Rainbow Tour
It's been an incredible success
We weren't quite sure, we had a few doubts

CHE
Would Evita win through?

PERON and OFFICERS
But the answer is yes!

EVA (in Spain)
There you are, I told you so
Makes no difference where we go
The whole world over--just the same
You should have heard them call our name
And who would underestimate the actress now?

PERON
I'm not underestimating you--just do the same thing in
Italy please

CHE
Now I don't like to spoil a wonderful story
But the news from Rome is not so good
She hasn't gone down like we thought she would
Italy's unconvinced by Argentine glory
They equate Peron with Mussolini
Can't think why

EVA (in Italy)
Did you here that?
They called me a whore!
They actually called me a whore!

AN ITALIAN ADMIRAL (CHE)
But Signora Peron--
It's an easy mistake
I'm still called an admiral
Yet I gave up the sea long ago

CHE / OFFICERS
Things aren't all that bad she met with the Pope
She got a Papal decoration and a kindly word
So even if the crowds gave our lady the bird

The Argentine/Italy axis does have some hope
She still made a fabulous impact
Caught the eye

PERON and OFFICERS
Let's here it for the Rainbow Tour
It's been an incredible success
We weren't quite sure, we had a few doubts

CHE
Would Evita win through?

PERON and OFFICERS
But the answer is--

CHE
A qualified--

PERON and OFFICERS
Yes!

CHE
Eva started well, no question, in France
Shining like the sun through the post-war haze
A beautiful reminder of the carefree days
She nearly captured the French, she sure had the chance
But she suddenly seemed to lose interest
She looked tired

PERON and OFFICERS
Tired? Eva tired?

CHE
Face the facts, the Rainbow's starting to fade
I don't think she'll make it to England now

PERON
It wasn't on the schedule anyhow

CHE
You'd better get out the flags and fix a parade
Some kind of coming home triumph
Is required

PERON and OFFICERS
Let's here it for the Rainbow Tour
It's been an incredible success
We weren't quite sure, we had a few doubts
Would Evita win through?

CHE
And the answer is--

PERON and OFFICERS
Yes

CHE
And no

PERON and OFFICERS
And yes

CHE
And no

PERON and OFFICERS
And yes... and no
Let's here it for the Rainbow Tour
It's been an incredible success...

EVA (back from Europe)
Who the hell does the King of England think he is?
Tea at some tinpot castle of his--what kind of invitation Is that?

Argentina's First Lady deserves Buckingham Palace!
If England can do without me
Then Argentina can do without England!
August 31st, 2016 at 2:07:29 PM permalink
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Quote: Pacomartin
My knowledge of Argentine history is largely based on Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyrics. I do remember the last lines of the Rainbow tour.


The only way I know a modicum of what y'all are talking about is because of Top Gear =/
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August 31st, 2016 at 2:12:24 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
My knowledge of Argentine history is largely based on Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyrics.


Mine ins't so extensive.

But Mike Duncan mentioned pre-independence Argentina/Chile in an ep of his podcast on the Bolivarian Revolution. I'm amazed down south they had an independence movement even more cobbled together from odds and ends than they did in North America.

What I'm beginning to think, is that if Mercantilism hadn't been the Big Popular Idea of the XVII-XIX Centuries, it's likely Spain, France, Britain and Portugal might have held on to their western colonies indefinitely.
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