No work for lawyers
February 19th, 2015 at 10:58:56 AM permalink | |
aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
February 19th, 2015 at 11:31:35 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | There's been a glut of lawyers in the US for over a decade. Law students are suing their law schools for promising them non existent jobs. Even if you do get a practice going, it's a feast or famine way of life. My former lawyer just did 2 years in the slammer for tax evasion during a famine period. He got disbarred and is now screwed for life. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 19th, 2015 at 12:09:00 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 | People enter law school thinking that life is what they see on "L.A. Law." Reality is they will likely not see a trial unless they get a DUI themselves. So much of being a lawyer is just writing or reviewing legal docs. I have worked near lawyers doing almost the same job as I was. They might be one step above, but glamorous it is not. Or you can try criminal law, thinking you will be F. Lee Bailey. Reality is you will be doing very low-level work, defending people on the edge of life. DUIs that show up to court loaded. Missing their court date and getting a bench warrant. Oh, and these winners will often call you at all hours of the day and night. You can try corporate law and get handed a huge box of paper that you have to read and find any error or problem. Dry reading about day to day things. You could try real estate law and spend your day hanging out with courthouse rats like myself. If they told people this as an undergrad half the law schools in the USA would close. The President is a fink. |
February 19th, 2015 at 12:39:44 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I have a nephew who graduated from law school last year. I warned him 3 years ago that it was a waste of time, he won't find a job and when he does it won't pay enough. Well, he flunked the bar on his first try and isn't going to take it again. Not a single one of the friends he graduated with that passed the bar has a law related job. So he's saying screw it and is going after an engineering degree at 26. His wife has one and has a good job so they live off her income. He was going to be Perry Mason and be the big bread winner. Fantasies die hard. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 19th, 2015 at 12:53:27 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
I think I head it on a podcast about how the practice of law really works. It is all sales and lead driven, little different than when I was in pest control. We had ads on TV to get people to the Yellow Pages (yeah, showing my age!) and call us. We then had a sales force to convert those leads to sales. Only one thing counted, getting them to sign on the line that was dotted. Well, law is the same way. Unless your initials are T.H., you will not have a great deal of repeat business. Huge firms get the repeat business that generates big billings. Small shops need a constant supply of work. Oh, and if you are a contingency shop, you do not get paid if and until the client does. So those ads with "The Hammer" promising to get you cash? All that is really is a call center who sells the leads to local attorneys. Just like mortgage refis. One of the most stable practices is suing the feds for disability. The attorney can get $6,000 for getting someone on SSI. Any wonder there are record numbers? The President is a fink. |
February 19th, 2015 at 1:07:09 PM permalink | |
aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
Well with the engineering degree, patent law firms will be interested |
February 19th, 2015 at 1:27:46 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It wasn't so much for the tax evasion, it was for creating non profit corps to cover the evasion. Charity corps that he gave money to and took out on the other end. It's called money laundering. He's a crook, in other words. So many lawyers think they can get away with anything. If they nabbed him on all the things he pulled in 30 years, he'd be in jail for 15 years. His fave was Ponzi schemes. He'd get in on the bottom and pull out in the middle with a huge profit. But like Capone, they nabbed him on taxes. He was a good guy to have as a lawyer, though. He was ruthless and would always get it done for you. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |