NBC sitcom''s last hope

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May 12th, 2017 at 2:37:39 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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never heard of most of them, don't think I've seen any of them etiher. ('cept parks and recreation which got publicity for firing an actress who slimmed down).

Perhaps that is a sample of why they got cancelled. The shows are no good? Writers have to stop 'narrowcasting'?
May 12th, 2017 at 3:05:54 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
The shows are no good? Writers have to stop 'narrowcasting'?


Perhaps, but sometimes people's tastes just change. TV used to be full of variety shows which vanished. One could say that people just moved away from it.

NBC had about 30 years when their sitcoms were extremely popular, but people have simply lost interest in sitcoms in the last decade. People get humor more from standup than they used to. They watch comedians talk about the news.

NBC sitcoms
Year of Last episode - Name - # of episodes
2015 Parks and Recreation 125
2014 Community  97
2013 The Office  201
2013 30 Rock  138
2009 My Name Is Earl  96
2008 Scrubs  182
2006 Will & Grace  184
2004 Frasier  264
2004 Friends  236
2003 Just Shoot Me!  148
2001 3rd Rock from the Sun  139
2001 City Guys  105
2000 Hang Time  104
2000 Suddenly Susan  93
1999 Mad About You  164
1999 Caroline in the City  97
1999 NewsRadio  97
1998 Seinfeld  180
1997 Wings  172
1996 The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air  148
1995 Empty Nest  170
1995 Blossom  114
1993 Cheers  270
1993 A Different World  141
1992 The Cosby Show  202
1992 Night Court  193
1992 The Golden Girls  180
1992 Dear John  90
1991 Amen  110
1990 227 116
1990 The Hogan Family  110
1990 ALF  102
1989 Family Ties  168
1988 The Facts of Life  209
1987 Gimme a Break!  137
1986 Silver Spoons  115
1985 Diff'rent Strokes  189
...
1978 Chico and the Man  88
1977 Sanford and Son  135

PARTLY BLACK AND WHITE
1970 I Dream of Jeannie  139
1969 Get Smart  138

BLACK AND WHITE
1965 Hazel  154
1964 The Joey Bishop Show  123
1961 Bachelor Father  157
1959 The Bob Cummings Show  173
1958 Father Knows Best  203
1958 The People’s Choice  104
1955 Mr. Peepers  127
1955 I Married Joan  98
1953 The Aldrich Family  97


It is popular they will return to popularity. You will notice there are only two shows that ended between 1971 and 1984.

The People's Choice from the 1950's. It took only three seasons to show 104 episodes.
May 14th, 2017 at 12:26:47 PM permalink
rxwine
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There is the possibility that after 60+ years of TV there are truly no original ideas for a network sitcom.


IMO, formulaic plotting works fine, but creativity takes work and some natural talent to keep producing something interesting out of it.

Kind of like landscaping, food preparation or song writing or lots of things. You use same elements but can produce something interesting or crap out of it or usually just something in between.

Get a good chef, you can eat chicken every day of the week and it's like a different meal every time.
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May 14th, 2017 at 1:48:22 PM permalink
terapined
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NBC only get my eyeballs for the Olympics and Tour de France.
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May 14th, 2017 at 6:04:44 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Possibly things will turn around. In 1998 the #1 box office film was "Saving Private Ryan" and most people thought that it was the last time an R-rated non CGI with adult themes would ever be #1 at the box office. Then in 2014, American Sniper was #1 in the box office. So the paradigm wasn't completely dead.


NBC is keeping three sitcoms this fall along with the Will and Grace revival, but the two band new shows being introduced are both dramas.

NBC FALL 2017-18 SCHEDULE (New programs in UPPER CASE; all times ET)
MONDAY
8-10 P.M. — The Voice
10-11 P.M. — THE BRAVE
TUESDAY
8-9 P.M. — The Voice
9-9:30 P.M. — Superstore :sitcom
9:30-10 P.M. — The Good Place :sitcom
10-11 P.M. — Chicago Fire
WEDNESDAY
8-9 P.M. — The Blacklist
9-10 P.M. — Law & Order: SVU
10-11 P.M. — Chicago P.D.
THURSDAY
8-8:30 P.M. — WILL & GRACE :sitcom
8:30-9 P.M. — Great News :sitcom
9-10 P.M. — This Is Us
10-11 P.M. — LAW & ORDER TRUE CRIME: THE MENENDEZ MURDERS
FRIDAY
8-9 P.M. — Blindspot
9-10 P.M. — Taken
10-11 P.M — Dateline NBC
May 14th, 2017 at 6:19:32 PM permalink
Evenbob
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I don't get Parks and R. I watched 3 eps
and turned it off in disgust. No part of
it was funny, just stupid and juvenile.
Yet it was on for years.
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May 14th, 2017 at 7:04:11 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
I don't get Parks and R.


Of the NBC sitcoms that made it for the last 20 years, which ones did you find watchable?

Year ended
2015 Parks and Recreation 125
2014 Community 97
2013 The Office 201
2013 30 Rock 138
2009 My Name Is Earl 96
2008 Scrubs 182
2006 Will & Grace 184
....
2004 Frasier 264
2004 Friends 236
2003 Just Shoot Me! 148
2001 3rd Rock from the Sun 139
2000 Suddenly Susan 93
1999 Mad About You 164
1999 Caroline in the City 97
1999 NewsRadio 97
1998 Seinfeld 180
1997 Wings 172
1996 The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 148
....
2001 City Guys 105 (Saturday morning aimed at teens)
2000 Hang Time 104(Saturday morning aimed at teens)
May 14th, 2017 at 7:14:47 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
Of the NBC sitcoms that made it for the last 20 years, which ones did you find watchable?

Year ended
2015 Parks and Recreation 125
2014 Community 97
2013 The Office 201
2013 30 Rock 138
2009 My Name Is Earl 96
2008 Scrubs 182
2006 Will & Grace 184
....
2004 Frasier 264
2004 Friends 236
2003 Just Shoot Me! 148
2001 3rd Rock from the Sun 139
2000 Suddenly Susan 93
1999 Mad About You 164
1999 Caroline in the City 97
1999 NewsRadio 97
1998 Seinfeld 180
1997 Wings 172
1996 The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 148
....
2001 City Guys 105 (Saturday morning aimed at teens)
2000 Hang Time 104(Saturday morning aimed at teens)


I watched and liked all of these:

2013 The Office 201
2013 30 Rock 138
2009 My Name Is Earl 96
2008 Scrubs 182
2006 Will & Grace 184
2004 Frasier 264
2003 Just Shoot Me! 148
2001 3rd Rock from the Sun 139
2000 Suddenly Susan 93
1999 Mad About You 164
1999 Caroline in the City 97
1999 NewsRadio 97
1998 Seinfeld
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 14th, 2017 at 9:45:19 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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You actually have broader tastes than I would have guessed. "Suddenly Susan' and "Caroline in the City" were more feminine shows.
May 15th, 2017 at 1:01:45 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
You actually have broader tastes than I would have guessed. "Suddenly Susan' and "Caroline in the City" were more feminine shows.


I liked both of them, especially Suddenly Susan.
She was a fun character. I loved Sex in the City
and still watch it in reruns. I liked Buffy, how
many men will admit that. I still dream about
my own Buffybot..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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