Jesus & Horus. Coincidence?
March 26th, 2015 at 3:55:06 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
I like that. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
March 26th, 2015 at 7:43:07 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
When you believe strongly in something that you can't prove exists, what does that make you. If it's anything but god in a popular religion, it makes you unstable, untrustworthy, weird, eccentric, cracked, and the guy in the tin foil hat. But if it's a nameless faceless invisible unspeaking god, well, that's OK then. We won't lock you in the loony bin for thinking his son is god too. In the old mental institutions, where you would lock up Uncle Ned because he thought he was Ben Franklin, and cousin Mary thought she was 10 years old, the workers there would often go a little nuts too. Being around crazy people day after day wears on you mentally, they are very convincing in their craziness. Just like religious people. They are so convinced they are right that you're the one who's crazy for not being on their side. That's why they so much want to convince you, if they do it means they might not be crazy after all. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 26th, 2015 at 9:28:22 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Of course so much depends upon what you mean by 'prove', but I imagine this scenario would make you pretty much a normal human being. Some believe strongly that God does not exist, that their spouse loves them, that their country is the best, that so and so person is trustworthy, that this is the solution for world hunger, that the other political ideology is bonkers, etc. All of these things you believe strongly in and yet are unable to prove it. What people go to the crazy bin for is when you can prove what they believe is wrong and yet they still believe it strongly. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
March 26th, 2015 at 10:27:36 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | I saw a bumper sticker that said "science works whether you believe in it or not". The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
March 27th, 2015 at 12:29:43 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
And of course you think that lets Jesus believers off the hook because we can't prove he isn't their secret dead friend who answers their prayers and looks over their shoulders to guide them. And you drink his blood and eat his flesh on a regular basis because he told you to. And he's 'saved' you from something nobody can quite figure out. And his 'virgin' mom has been elevated to one notch below divinity, you can pray to her, but never think she's anything other than a caring mom. Nothing crazy about any of that. It's why most scientists are atheists, they just aren't smart enough to grasp supernatural superstitious supergoofy religion. Good for them, cause if it were up to the religious, it would still be the 13th century when they had all the power. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 27th, 2015 at 12:37:19 AM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Wait for it... =) Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
March 27th, 2015 at 4:03:19 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
That's a good bumper sticker. It is only the higher truths that need you to believe in them to work. It is philosophy that gives us the scientific method, ethics that tells science what it should or should not do, it is politics that fund the sciences, it is religion that inspires science through an ordered world worth studying. Having to believe in something does not make it less important or less impactful. Belief or faith, is the key ingredient to the most powerful forces in the world. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
March 27th, 2015 at 4:11:43 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
It's like you are trying to speak a foreign language and it is all coming out wrong. When you attempt to give a summary of my faith I laugh because your misunderstanding and prejudice against it comes out in everything you write. Your attempt is so simplistic and using the wrong words and without nuance and without care or respect; it really as if you are a baby trying to speak French or something. It's quite hard to hear. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
March 27th, 2015 at 6:58:27 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I'm thinking of getting one that says: "God doesn't exist, even if you believe he loves you." Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
March 27th, 2015 at 9:42:18 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Various early church writers, such as Irenaeus (Bishop of Lyons) Justin Martyr (Christian apologist; 100 to 165), Tertullian (Christian theologian; circa 160 to 220 +) concluded that the Pagan/Christian similarities were a Satanic attempt at "diabolical mimicry." Satan was said to have use "plagiarism by anticipation." That is, the Devil made a pre-emptive strike against the gospel stories centuries before Jesus was born.
The Greek word Christ was a translation of Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), both of which, as you pointed out, means "anointed one". The English word 'anoint", like so many English words came from Old French word which came from Latin inunguere "to anoint," from in- "on" + unguere "to smear" or to smear on ointment. While this might seem like deliberate mimicry to you, it could merely be the tendency of human beings to point to a superior being as a type of "healer" and would be common to all types of religion. |