Reincarnation

April 28th, 2015 at 6:28:47 PM permalink
FrGamble
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I think someone could say you accept it because it fits your worldview.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
April 29th, 2015 at 10:54:49 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I think someone could say you accept it because it fits your worldview.


I accept it because the evidence points there
fairly conclusively. Some people are reincarnated,
maybe we all are. I accept that tobacco can cause
cancer in some people because there's hard
evidence that says so. I don't accept there is a
god because no evidence shows there is. It's
unknown why many drugs work, but when
evidence shows they do work for most people,
we use them.

Never ignore something if scientific evidence
points to it.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 29th, 2015 at 3:33:24 PM permalink
Evenbob
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All people far smarter than anybody on this
forum:

Benjamin Franklin

"I look upon death to be as necessary to the constitution as sleep. We shall rise refreshed in the morning." And, "Finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some shape or other always exist."

Walt Whitman

"I know I am deathless. No doubt I have died myself ten thousand times before. I laugh at what you call dissolution, and I know the amplitude of time."

Socrates

"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in existence."

Arthur Schopenhauer (Philosopher)

"Were an Asiatic to ask me for a definition of Europe, I should be forced to answer him: It is that part of the world which is haunted by the incredible delusion that man was created out of nothing, and that his present birth is his first entrance into life."
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:23:26 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob

Never ignore something if scientific evidence
points to it.


Very good advice. I have yet to see any scientific evidence that even remotely hints towards reincarnation much less conclusively so. Maybe you can enlighten me. By the way, plenty of scientific evidence points to the universe having a beginning.

I also like most of the quotes from the famous smart people you posted. I think they show that we know instinctively that we will live forever and that our longing for perfection, love, and justice will all be fulfilled.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
April 29th, 2015 at 6:57:56 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I have yet to see any scientific evidence that even remotely hints towards reincarnation .


Not will you ever, no evidence will ever
satisfy you or the Church. Galileo had
a mountain of scientific evidence he
had complied using his telescope and
complicated math, that the earth and
the known planets revolved around the
sun. The Church dismissed this evidence
with a wave of it's hypocritical hand and
ordered Galileo to never speak of it
or write of it again.

So we know how the church deals with
evidence not to it's liking, and reincarnation
shakes the very foundation of what the
Church believes in. Interesting that 25%
of Americans say they believe in reincarnation,
even higher in some European countries.
A good percentage of these have to be
Catholics, probably the same ones that use
birth control and go to confession once every
10 years. The 'bad' Catholics.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 30th, 2015 at 11:39:59 AM permalink
Evenbob
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In the 80's Dr Stevenson met with a high
ranking swami in the Ramakrishna tradition.
The swami asked what Stevenson was doing
in India, and Stevenson said he was doing
scientific research to see if reincarnation was
true. The swami sat for a very long time and
finally said, 'Yes, reincarnation is true. But it
doesn't make any difference if people know
it or not, we have just as many scoundrels
in India as they do in the West.'

He's saying that people of India all believe they
are reborn, and it doesn't change them, they
still do what they want, just like people who
don't believe. He's looking at it from a religious
viewpoint, like all spiritual leaders he wants people
to wake up and realize the path of peace, non
violence, charity and giving is the only path that
leads to true harmony. They don't want to do that
if they think they're born once, or a hundred times.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:45:48 PM permalink
Evenbob
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The worst thing to do is connect reincarnation
to a religious belief. It's no more supernatural
than birth is, it's just as natural as anything else
we do.

Of course religious people, like Hindus and
Buddhists, have latched onto it and make
it a pivotal part of their beliefs. They don't
know why people are reincarnated, so it
must be because we're spiritually 'not done'
when we die, and need to come back to
keep going in the religion. They have no
evidence that this is true, but just like Christians,
they think they see something that's not
there, and make up whole religions around
it.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 1st, 2015 at 12:31:58 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's hard to ignore stories like this when
you see the expert research that's been
done in the area of reincarnation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=132381
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May 3rd, 2015 at 12:05:20 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's interesting that in not a single case of
the thousands of cases investigated by
the team at UofV, not one involved a kid
who remembered being anything but human
in a past life. Not even in the cases where
they didn't have enough info to do an
investigation. It's interesting because the
religions who believe in reincarnation all believe
we can be reborn as animals and even insects.

This never made sense to me, which is why
I never bought into that brand of reincarnation.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 13th, 2015 at 3:57:00 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Just found out a good friend I haven't seen
in 30 years died in 2009. He was a drinker
and went thru the windshield of his car
in the 80's and was in a wheelchair from
then on. My first thought was, I wonder
if he's back yet.

For 20 years I've noticed that nobody ever
talks about those who've passed away like
they're concerned about them. "I hope
uncle Bill didn't go to hell, I'm very concerned
about him." Never heard it on TV or in a movie,
or heard somebody say it.

It's like people instinctively know things continue
on when somebody dies, they know everything
is fine. It's the religions of the world that sow
the seed of doubt in us. That convince people
this life is all you get, you better lean on their
advice if you want a hope at what comes next.

Religion does a great disservice to humanity by
scaring people, all so the religious leaders can
be elevated to a position of power.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.