Gigafactory

September 23rd, 2019 at 9:35:48 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
On September 19, Amazon announced it was purchasing 100,000 delivery vans that are 100% electric. Deliveries will begin in 2021, and the company wants to have 10,000 of them on the streets by 2022. The remaining 90,000 units will be delivered by 2030.

The trucks will be manufactured by Rivian, which recently received a $500 million investment from Ford and a $700 million investment from Amazon.

As corporate fleets go, 100,000 is a huge number. To put it into perspective, FedEx's worldwide fleet of delivery trucks/vans is 85,000. UPS' worldwide fleet is 123,000.


Lets look at the hidden question. Is AMZN going to start to abandon the gig-hire delivery force it now has for more regular hires, or will it start forcing these trucks on them the same way FedEx does its drivers?
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September 23rd, 2019 at 4:31:37 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
Lets look at the hidden question. Is AMZN going to start to abandon the gig-hire delivery force it now has for more regular hires, or will it start forcing these trucks on them the same way FedEx does its drivers?


Can you elaborate on "forcing these trucks on them"? Are you predicting these trucks will be crappy?
September 23rd, 2019 at 5:07:27 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
Quote: AZDuffman
Lets look at the hidden question. Is AMZN going to start to abandon the gig-hire delivery force it now has for more regular hires, or will it start forcing these trucks on them the same way FedEx does its drivers?


Can you elaborate on "forcing these trucks on them"? Are you predicting these trucks will be crappy?


Sure.

Most FedEx drivers are on an owned route. FedEx has a ton of requirements for them, so many that they have been taken to court for having too many standards for an independent contractor. Anyhow, one thing is the trucks. Notice that they are all the same?

So, will AMZN make renting the truck a requirement to have an AMZN route? Or will they make direct hires?

IMHO AMZN is on borrowed time with their labor practices. They are on a crash course to take a union. Lots of people like being an indie driver, but if you have to lease the vehicle the rate must go up.

No idea if they will be crappy or not, but I do not have high hopes for a sartup using so much new tech.
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September 26th, 2019 at 2:34:05 AM permalink
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California police officer must call off chase after Tesla patrol car's battery runs low.

Can you imagine Roscoe explaining he let them get away due to a dead battery?
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September 26th, 2019 at 5:11:43 AM permalink
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California police officer must call off chase after Tesla patrol car's battery runs low.
What do they do when gas tanks get low.
September 26th, 2019 at 5:13:55 AM permalink
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What do they do when gas tanks get low.


Fill it mid shift when getting donuts. Takes just a few minutes instead of hours to charge.
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September 26th, 2019 at 10:18:49 AM permalink
DRich
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Fill it mid shift when getting donuts. Takes just a few minutes instead of hours to charge.


Tesla has chargers that give a 75 mile range in 5 minutes.
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September 26th, 2019 at 11:08:32 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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those new million mile batteries will be great, the cars will be junked before the batteries are.
September 26th, 2019 at 11:59:55 AM permalink
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Quote: DRich
Tesla has chargers that give a 75 mile range in 5 minutes.


That will last the cops about 90 minutes. In pursuit it will get sucked dry fast.
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September 26th, 2019 at 12:10:29 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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That's what radios and planes are for.