Get rid of victimless crimes?

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September 4th, 2015 at 9:04:32 PM permalink
Fleastiff
Member since: Oct 27, 2012
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some thoughts:

frG: would you like to meet a young woman with a trust fund who did a stint in an amsterdam window for kicks? Or who used to go to sex parties in san francisco. You can't say she was coerced into it by economic necessity.

vice and narcotics have always been the major contributors to police bribery/robbery. what happens if you remove them?

why do we allow police to visit craigslist... cyberspace is no one's sidewalk or property rights? Yet what happens when craigslist advertisers all use the same run down hotel? Or instead of a floating crap game its a floating brothel?

would the wife of the google executive killed in santa cruz by an upscale hooker from a wealthy silicon valley family have the same views?

do you think a "young girl from a good family" changes her views after doing a stint at wal mart or Mcdonalds at teh minimum wage?

what about the Olympic track and field star who turned upscale escort?
September 4th, 2015 at 9:18:32 PM permalink
petroglyph
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All prostitutes are not women.

The way it is done legally in brothels in Nevada is a giant public service which keeps the act as safe and disease free as it can reasonably be. Those women are checked for disease daily, weekly and monthly by doctors, and "safe sex" methods are practiced.

My mind was made up when in the 80's I visited Wallace Idaho near the Sunshine Mine, and spoke with locals who claimed since they had 5 brothels in town, there just wasn't any serious crime. Without putting anyone else's moral values on someone else, just the reasonable belief that wives and daughters could safely walk around town without fear of predators makes the immorality of the situation moot.

Prostitution has been around for thousands of years. Making it illegal just puts criminals in charge, but it doesn't stop prostitution anymore than prohibition did with alcohol.

For the professional sex workers it provides them a safe venue to work, without fear of violent Johns or pimps. The body's of those that choose this line of work in a free society should belong to them, not the state.

As always follow the money to understand the reasons why the most natural thing possible to our body's is made illegal by a controlling elite. It is legal to sell a person's blood [to a blood bank] or their labor, I don't delineate between which parts of a persons body or labor they choose to leverage to make a living. Prostitution makes random sex safer, healthier, less crime, less rape, incest, violence, stops unwanted pregnancy's, prevents stupid marriages, helps maintain marriages, etc., how can this be a bad thing?

I can't agree that some young gal marrying some old rich guy is different, only in prejudiced judgmental eyes, who's authority it isn't. Prostitution can be some of the most honest sex ever engaged in.

In many cases it is cheaper to eat every meal out and purchase every sexual encounter, than to let society's mores decide the fairness of splitting up an unrewarding failed relationship.
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September 5th, 2015 at 12:15:55 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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The Church would never see the logic
of any of this because they are now,
and always have been, completely
obsessed with sex. The entire Catholic
religion should be seeing a psychotherapist
at least 3 times a week..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 5th, 2015 at 5:18:35 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Fleastiff
Yet what happens when craigslist advertisers all use the same run down hotel? Or instead of a floating crap game its a floating brothel?


This is where the "nuisance" laws come into play. Of course, the hotel owner may not care. There was a place one town over from where I grew up called "The Moonlite Motel." This place might have been legit in the 1950s, but you could see it was an hourly by the 1970s. Rumor was you got two cold beers when you checked in. I met someone worked there and they said you would not believe what checked into the place. It was a little out in the country, location is though the place has been flattened.

OTOH, if you have a small motel that you solicit the biz of roustabouts and truck drivers, you will want to keep this clientele away. There are places like this who know lots of these guys are family men who just want a nice, clean place to lay their heads. So they should be allowed to ban the hookers from hanging out there.

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do you think a "young girl from a good family" changes her views after doing a stint at wal mart or Mcdonalds at teh minimum wage?


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September 5th, 2015 at 2:11:00 PM permalink
Pacomartin
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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The French once had a famously tolerant approach towards prostitution. Filles de joies operated legally under Napoleon, and brothels were inspected for health standards. It was not until the post-war period that the French began to clamp down, outlawing brothels in 1946.

Paying for sex in France is not currently illegal, although brothels, soliciting and pimping are. France is thought to have at least 20,000 sex workers, far fewer than the 400,000 or so thought to offer their services across the Rhine. But the nature of prostitution in France has changed radically over the past 20 years. Today about 90% of those working the streets in France are foreigners, up from 20% in 1990. Most are women, trafficked to France chiefly from Romania, Bulgaria, Nigeria and China by prostitution rings; many are subjected to violence, as are their families.

The nordic countries have also tightened up laws against prostitution, as the prostitutes are more and more often trafficking victims.
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