Uber?

September 18th, 2017 at 2:56:26 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Uneventful 2 rides this time. I did learn
that as of this year in the States, Uber
drivers can refuse a fare if they don't
like where it's going, or if the distance
is too short. A cab driver can never
do that, if you try you'll lose your job.
Primadonnaville, that's Uber.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 18th, 2017 at 3:11:34 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Uneventful 2 rides this time. I did learn
that as of this year in the States, Uber
drivers can refuse a fare if they don't
like where it's going, or if the distance
is too short. A cab driver can never
do that, if you try you'll lose your job.
Primadonnaville, that's Uber.


I don't see the problem. Uber is not a common carrier, are they?
The President is a fink.
September 18th, 2017 at 3:30:44 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Evenbob
Uneventful 2 rides this time. I did learn
that as of this year in the States, Uber
drivers can refuse a fare if they don't
like where it's going, or if the distance
is too short. A cab driver can never
do that, if you try you'll lose your job.
Primadonnaville, that's Uber.

What a bunch of crap. Of course cabbies refuse.
I had a cabbie refuse me due to distance
I was at the Chicago Midway airport
Did not want to wait for the free shuttle bus
Was willing to pay a cab to take me to the hotel
Cabbie refused, pointed to the shuttle bus pick up area
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September 18th, 2017 at 3:35:19 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: terapined
What a bunch of crap. Of course cabbies refuse.
I had a cabbie refuse me due to distance
I was at the Chicago Midway airport
Did not want to wait for the free shuttle bus
Was willing to pay a cab to take me to the hotel
Cabbie refused, pointed to the shuttle bus pick up area


Just because he did it doesn't mean that he is allowed to. I know in Nevada a cab isn't supposed to refuse unless they believe it is an unsafe situation in which I believe they must report it to the T.A.
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September 18th, 2017 at 4:04:58 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: DRich
Just because he did it doesn't mean that he is allowed to.


In the cab biz if a dispatcher gives you
a fare, you do not have the right of
refusal. For a curbside pickup, yes
you can say no. It's very unprofessional
of Uber to leave it up to the driver,
it's discrimination and shouldn't
be tolerated.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 18th, 2017 at 4:32:53 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
It's very unprofessional
of Uber to leave it up to the driver,
it's discrimination and shouldn't
be tolerated.


How on earth is it "discrimination?" If the fare is not worth it, one way or the other, it is simply a business decision.
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September 18th, 2017 at 5:28:50 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: AZDuffman
How on earth is it "discrimination?" If the fare is not worth it, one way or the other, it is simply a business decision.

Absolutely its a business decision
A lot of Uber drivers work during their regular commute.
They want rides that make time sense and business sense.
You accept rides going toward work and vice versa.
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September 18th, 2017 at 5:57:03 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
How on earth is it "discrimination?"


Because 99% of the rides they turn
down are in poor neighborhoods.
The black lady at the market who
needs a ride home, the black guy
who has go to the doctor. You see
it talked about on the Uber boards
all the time. I thought it illegal for
them to do that, but now it's not.
And they laugh and laugh about it.

My driver today has been doing it 2 years
and is disgusted by a lot of drivers.
There's a closed FB forum of drivers
from this area and they brag all the time
brag how they leave people with no ride
because of where they live.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 18th, 2017 at 6:22:37 PM permalink
Aussie
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Quote: terapined
Absolutely its a business decision
A lot of Uber drivers work during their regular commute.
They want rides that make time sense and business sense.
You accept rides going toward work and vice versa.




Drivers have an option to specify their final destination and the app will only allocate jobs that are more or less along the same route. So when going to work during their regular commute there should never be a reason not to take a job. I drive 45-50 minutes each way to work and will almost always pick up someone along the way. I will never have more than 5-10 min added on to my commute but will subsidise the cost of my trip.

Regarding refusing to take a fare. If you were worried about your safety or your car being damaged then why wouldn't you refuse it? This is the only reason I would ever cancel - safety or if the rider was so drunk I was concerned about them vomiting all over my vehicle. Refusing due to short distance is counter productive because of the minimum fare structure. You will actually make more doing short trips all night than getting a long one and quite possibly being stuck there without a job back to where you want to be. A driver doesn't find it where you're going until you're in the car though so it will be an awkward discussion telling them to get out again for no reasonable reason.
September 18th, 2017 at 7:31:23 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Aussie
A driver doesn't find it where you're going until you're in the car


But he DOES know where you live, or
where you're being picked up from,
duh. If it's a ghetto address, or a
supermarket, or a laundromat, or
a pharmacy, or a bar, chances are
the person isn't going more than a
few blocks. You learn this by doing
the job over a period of time. Those
are the fares that get refused, not after
they get in the car. As a driver it seems
you would know this.

These are also the backbone fares of
the taxi business. It's where you make
your nut every day, taking people on
short runs, keeping the mileage down
and having the smaller amounts add
up. But too many Uber drivers are
primadonna's, they only want the gravy
runs and leave the short ones hanging.
Unprofessional idiots.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.