Uber?

March 19th, 2018 at 11:42:00 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: rxwine
Might be exonerated.


Won't matter, the news is out that
Uber robot cars kill people. That's
all they'll remember.

I don't like them anyway, they are
trying to cut out the middleman
so they can get more profit, like
they aren't making enough already.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 19th, 2018 at 11:58:18 AM permalink
petroglyph
Member since: Aug 3, 2014
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Quote: rxwine
If you hit someone outside the crosswalk, you probably wouldn't be charged.
The victim was either on or pushing a bicycle, according to the link. Unless things have changed, when riding a bicycle, the laws are the same as if driving a vehicle.

I don't know all the specifics, but imagine you are driving along in your automobile and want to make a left across oncoming lanes. It is perfectly legal to do so, at any point unless otherwise forbidden. That appears similar to what happened here. It is a faux pas in the code, imo.

How does Uber AI think about dogs in front of the vehicle on the road? Hit the brakes, veer, or ignore? It will take some lives to get the bugs worked out. I'm waiting for the first hack of a driverless, vehicle that goes up on the curb into a crowd.
Everyone gets thrown from the plane to maintain altitude
March 19th, 2018 at 12:13:54 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: petroglyph
I'm waiting for the first hack of a driverless, vehicle that goes up on the curb into a crowd.


It's already been done on regular cars. I assume they could cause you to have an accident.

Quote:
Last month on 60 Minutes, Dan Kaufman from DARPA’s Information Innovation Office remotely hacked a car, taking control of several car functions including acceleration and braking.


https://www.computerworld.com/article/2903714/60-diy-car-hacking-device-is-an-inexpensive-and-easy-way-to-hack-cars.html
Nobody learned anything from the global financial crisis.
March 19th, 2018 at 1:35:53 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Just took an Uber home from the airport.
My driver was thrilled to hear somebody
died because of robot Uber. He drives
200 miles a day and totally depends on
it for a living. He's Middle Eastern from
Detroit, what else is he going to do. Uber
is the new immigrant equivalent of what digging
ditches in 1900 was.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 19th, 2018 at 2:20:16 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Posts: 14591
For those who doubt I use Uber, here's
list of the cars I rented since last May.
For every one I took Uber to and from
the airport to save on parking.

View Booking
C340120628

Budget: Compact Car

11/10/2017
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C340340809

Budget: Compact Car


11/17/2017
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C340389193

Avis: Compact Car


11/17/2017
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C340642551

Budget: Economy Car


11/24/2017
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C340967100

Avis: Intermediate Car


12/02/2017
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C341258999

Budget: Intermediate Car

12/08/2017
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C341456197

Avis: Intermediate SUV


12/15/2017
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C341620056

Budget: Compact Car


12/21/2017
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C342105449

Budget: Compact Car


01/06/2018
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C342331786

Budget: Compact Car

01/13/2018
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C342581094

Budget: Economy Car


01/20/2018
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C342904649

Budget: Compact Car


01/27/2018
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C342989019

Budget: Compact Car


02/03/2018
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C343375904

Budget: Compact Car


02/10/2018
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C343384120

Budget: Compact Car


02/16/2018
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C343384152

Budget: Compact Car

02/17/2018
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C343513180

Budget: Compact Car

02/23/2018
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03/03/2018
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C344445590

Budget: Compact Car




03/10/2018
View Booking
C344601701

Budget: Intermediate Car


03/17/2018
View Booking

Avis: Compact Car


05/12/2017
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C333310494

Budget: Compact Car


05/18/2017
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C333413372

Budget: Compact Car
05/25/2017
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C333626935

Budget: Intermediate Car
(3 day rental)

Gerald R Ford Intl Airport

06/01/2017
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C333835203

Budget: Compact Car


06/08/2017
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C333868536

Budget: Compact Car


06/15/2017
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C333880912

Budget: Compact Car


06/22/2017
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C334563691

Budget: Compact Car

06/29/2017
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C334060136

Avis: Economy Car

07/07/2017
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C334060309

Avis: Economy Car


07/14/2017
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C335238019

Avis: Economy Car


07/21/2017
View Booking
C335305290

Avis: Economy Car


07/28/2017
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C335733914

Avis: Economy Car

08/04/2017
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C336074082

Budget: Economy Car


08/11/2017
View Booking
C336048644

Avis: Economy Car

08/18/2017
View Booking
C336841562

Avis: Intermediate Car

View Booking
C337044342

Budget: Compact Car


08/31/2017
View Booking
C337410117

Budget: Compact Car

09/08/2017
View Booking
C337700306

Budget: Fullsize Car


09/15/2017
View Booking
C337799978

Budget: Compact Car


09/22/2017
View Booking
C337799992

Budget: Compact Car


09/29/2017
View Booking
C338600949

Budget: Compact Car


10/06/2017
View Booking
C338601065

Budget: Compact Car


10/13/2017
View Booking
C338757563

Budget: Compact Car


10/20/2017
View Booking
C339528413

Budget: Compact Car


10/27/2017
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If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 19th, 2018 at 2:26:36 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 108
Posts: 8074
Quote: Evenbob
GM tried driverless cars 60 years ago.
There's a color film out there with robot
radio driven cars on the freeway. Families
taking naps and having dinner while the
car did the driving. 60 years later they are
still not here and are killing people.


I keep laughing about it. Some manufacturer is making an automated car with no steering wheel or pedals. Now. how on earth do you move the car around the parking lot. driveway, or other close-quarters? They need to look at airplanes. Even with autopilot you still need controls.

Most oversold thing I can remember in my life.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
March 19th, 2018 at 2:33:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Most oversold thing I can remember in my life.


In 100 years they will all be driverless,
but computers will be far advanced to
what they are now. Our computers will
look like the horse and buggy by then.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 19th, 2018 at 2:36:11 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 7
Posts: 485
Quote: Wizard
I know this sounds very heartless and actuary-like, but I think the relevant statistics would be injuries/deaths per mile driven for "driver-less" cars compared to fully human-driven.

Also, I'll be impressed when cars can truly drive on their own without a human being behind the wheel.


The estimate is driverless vehicles will decrease motor vehicle deaths 90%. My computer savvy son is all for driverless vehicles. I still think that the psyche of the American public is not ready to give up the 'control' of being a driver, even if it can be proven it is safer.
March 19th, 2018 at 2:38:54 PM permalink
Wizard
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Isn't there some competition to have totally driver-less vehicles attempt to take back roads from Primm to Vegas and no vehicle has ever reached the finish line? I think these vehicles are even equipped with GPS points so they know something about a route. It makes me nervous that if they can't navigate a dirt road then why trust them on a busy street.

Then again, I'm all for considering the statistics, which I don't know.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
March 19th, 2018 at 2:45:01 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 118
Posts: 14591
Quote: Wizard
It makes me nervous that if they can't navigate a dirt road then why trust them on a busy street.


Reminds me of the films of the one
man helicopters they were trying
in the 50's that were the future of
us getting to work. Still waiting
on that one.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.