Hey FrGamble!

September 7th, 2020 at 5:45:29 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It has been occurring to me lately that Christianity is
a false dichotomy. It only allows for there to be two
choices. Christianity or heresy. If you're not one
you're the other. Which is just not true, there are
many other choices that are just as valid as Christianity.
But not in the eyes of the church.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 14th, 2020 at 5:53:45 PM permalink
aceofspades
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Wait, if there is life elsewhere within our own solar system, what about the rest of the universe? I thought God made us super duper special as the only ones in the universe



https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/venus-alien-life-signs-phosphine-nasa-today-b436565.html
September 15th, 2020 at 4:14:14 AM permalink
FrGamble
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He did and we are.

IF there is life elsewhere with gifts of reason and free will I don't think it make us any less special or unique.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
September 15th, 2020 at 6:54:57 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: FrGamble
He did and we are.

IF there is life elsewhere with gifts of reason and free will I don't think it make us any less special or unique.


That is a pretty slippery slope Padre. If God didn't make the aliens than did another God? If we are all made by the same God we must all be in his image. If aliens aren't made by a God than we don't need God for life. hmmmm
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
September 15th, 2020 at 7:58:31 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Aardvarks were made by God, but not in His image and likeness.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
September 15th, 2020 at 8:10:17 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: FrGamble
Aardvarks were made by God, but not in His image and likeness.


You brought up aliens with "gifts of reason and self aware" your first post. Do you believe Aardvarks have these qualities?
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
September 15th, 2020 at 8:17:44 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: kenarman
You brought up aliens with "gifts of reason and self aware" your first post. Do you believe Aardvarks have these qualities?


Indeed - the next argument the padre will espouse is that ilife with "gifts of reason and self aware[ness]" elsewhere in the universe are the exception that proves the rule
September 15th, 2020 at 9:08:41 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: aceofspades
Indeed - the next argument the padre will espouse is that ilife with "gifts of reason and self aware[ness]" elsewhere in the universe are the exception that proves the rule


I guess we will have to wait and see but even if we discover alien aardvarks with the gift of reason and free will I don't really see the problem.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
September 15th, 2020 at 9:18:54 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble

with gifts of reason and free will


Everything is a 'gift' to these people.
Santa is alive and well, spewing 'gifts'
left and right. Such a bunch of silly
nonsense, nothing is a 'gift'. It's hard
work thru choice and evolution, calling
everything a gift takes away from the
importance of it and gives credit where
no credit id due at all. Absolutely none.

Religion is the original copout. Why think
for myself at all, I'll just blame some god
for everything. Like FrG does at every turn.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 15th, 2020 at 9:31:26 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Evenbob
Everything is a 'gift' to these people.
Santa is alive and well, spewing 'gifts'
left and right. Such a bunch of silly
nonsense, nothing is a 'gift'. It's hard
work thru choice and evolution, calling
everything a gift takes away from the
importance of it and gives credit where
no credit id due at all. Absolutely none.

Religion is the original copout. Why think
for myself at all, I'll just blame some god
for everything. Like FrG does at every turn.


I wonder if the padre views humans born with severe mental and/or physical handicaps as a "gift" to them