Hey FrGamble!

September 18th, 2020 at 6:15:42 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: aceofspades
Wouldn't god approve of rape if there were only one man and one woman left on Earth (and the woman was a lesbian and hated the man) and without offspring, humans would die off and therefore, there would be nobody left to worship it?


No, rape is an inherently evil act and cannot be a moral good. The circumstances or the ends don't change an evil into a good.
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September 18th, 2020 at 7:19:38 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: FrGamble
No, rape is an inherently evil act and cannot be a moral good. The circumstances or the ends don't change an evil into a good.


So did Mary and God have a discussion about her being the vessel for Jesus and she had a choice?
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September 18th, 2020 at 8:51:42 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: kenarman
So did Mary and God have a discussion about her being the vessel for Jesus and she had a choice?


You never heard of the Annunciation? Read
Luke sometime.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 19th, 2020 at 9:14:58 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Evenbob
You never heard of the Annunciation? Read
Luke sometime.


The Annunciation reads like bad fan fiction lol
September 19th, 2020 at 9:27:21 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: aceofspades
The Annunciation reads like bad fan fiction lol


How is it Mary was a married virgin?
Was her husband a little on the slow
side? We have to assume she was in
her teens, as were most newly married
girls then. 15 or 16 probably. God gets
ahold of you and says the wants to
knock you up, and you say, sure, go
right ahead. Never happened, silly
beyond belief. And why is it only in
Luke? This is a pretty big part of the
myth. Should be in all the gospels.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 19th, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: petroglyph
Morality is subjective.

Many of us wouldn't be here if it weren't for rape, somewhere along the scale. Something like 1 in 14 have a trace of Mongolian DNA.


So morality is subjective why? Are you saying rape is a good thing?
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September 19th, 2020 at 12:13:00 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: FrGamble
So morality is subjective why? Are you saying rape is a good thing?
To a rapist, yes.

Even the definition of rape is subjective.
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September 19th, 2020 at 7:16:15 PM permalink
FrGamble
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So the morality of rape is just dependent on the person or perspective? Morally good for the rapist? Is that really what you are saying?!? Do you want to tell that to the victim or does she just not understand that morality is subjective?
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September 19th, 2020 at 7:36:05 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: FrGamble
So the morality of rape is just dependent on the person or perspective? Morally good for the rapist? Is that really what you are saying?!?
Just like what you are doing, twisting an objective statement [in the opinion of the rapist] to try and make it seem [subjective] like that is what I said.


Quote:
Do you want to tell that to the victim or does she just not understand that morality is subjective?
Is that how you see the world, all victims of rape are female? Is it only immoral in your opinion if the victim is a she?
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September 20th, 2020 at 9:30:02 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: petroglyph
Just like what you are doing, twisting an objective statement [in the opinion of the rapist] to try and make it seem [subjective] like that is what I said.


Thanks for the clarification, I just want to be sure that you would agree that rape, no matter the genders involved, is always objectively evil and the morality of such an act is not in any way determined by the subjective opinions of the perpetrator or society.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (