Hey FrGamble!
March 20th, 2016 at 6:43:45 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Two good things that came out of the Church. They invented distilled spirits in the 11th century. And Gregorian chants. I've listened to them for over 20 years. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 4th, 2017 at 7:58:22 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | It's actually easier and more gratifying having conversations with you when you have me blocked. I don't have to hear how wrong I am after every single post and how superior you are. I also know every single answer you can give to anything I say, so you typing it would just be redundant. lol If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 5th, 2017 at 9:44:26 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Evenbob, I had to read this post to reply to it. I too have found the forum easier, kinder, and more gratifying without having to read your posts. I would like to unblock you and have come up with a simple way to do so. Simply answer appropriately and honestly the two questions below in this thread: 1) Roughly how many people were killed in the Inquisitions run by the Catholic Church and how many during the over 200 years of the Crusades? 2) Are you sorry for offending so grievously and falsely the person FrG loves most in all the world, Jesus Christ? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 5th, 2017 at 2:29:31 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
There you go, then.
Why, it contradicts what you just said. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 5th, 2017 at 3:14:25 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Because I believe in dialogue and discussion as a means to learning and to having my views challenged and changed. The problem is when one side of the discussion is not interested in true discussion and is unwilling to learn or open to change. Until you demonstrate a sense the you actually are interested in learning about things you don't know and until you demonstrate some sense of empathy there is no reason to unblock you and that saddens me. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 5th, 2017 at 3:27:02 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
We've been having almost daily discussions here since Nov of 2013. We've exchanged a couple thousand PM's. You just now decided, after 4 years, that I don't meet your standards of 'learning' and it has to change for you to continue? Does this mean I get a refund on my tuition and won't graduate? Nobody told me you were in charge of the conversation. You would make a very poor member of a debate team, you just want to take your toys and go home when people don't agree with your opinions. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 5th, 2017 at 4:09:37 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | I guess I can continue to be berated and insulted by you on this thread, at least it is no where else. I've thought many times that you weren't really interested in learning, but I guess I just kept waiting and hoping. You might remember that you recently without shame continued to propose bald faced lies as historical truth and when called out on it doubled down and compared Christ to Hitler. If you don't admit your mistake and apologize I have nothing further to say. I refuse to think all that time I had interacting with you was a waste and I hope you don't either. I am not in charge of your education, you are! You should do a much better job. Thanks for the discussion and I wish you the best in your life. Know that I will be praying for you. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 5th, 2017 at 4:12:48 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
LOL! The Vatican puppet right to the end, you're a piece of work.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 7th, 2017 at 1:21:32 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Lets just talk about one Crusade, to set an example. An estimated 1 million were slaughtered in the Albigensian Crusade alone. (1208-49) Is that enough slaughtered in Jesus name? Hardly, it was just the beginning. Mark Gregory Pegg writes that "The Albigensian Crusade ushered genocide into the West by linking divine salvation to mass murder, by making slaughter as loving an act as His sacrifice on the cross." Albigensian Crusade (1208-49) 1,000,000 The traditional death toll given for the war against the Cathars is one million, which is repeated in these: John M. Robertson, A Short History of Christianity, London: Watts, 1902, p.254 ("It has been reckoned that a million of all ages and both sexes were slain.") Christopher Brookmyre, Not the End of the World (New York: Grove Press, 1998) p.39 Max Dimont, Jews, God, and History, (New York: Penguin, 1994) p.225: 1,000,000 Frenchmen suspected of being Albigensians slain Dizerega Gus, Pagans & Christians: The Personal Spiritual Experience (St. Paul, MN: Llewellyn, 2001) p.195 Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History (Orlando, FL: Morningstar & Lark, 1995) p.74 Michael Newton, Holy Homicide (Port Townsend, WA: Loompanics Unlimited, 1998) p.117 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade Crusades (1095-1291) 3,000,000 Deaths NOTE: No scholar has ever published a death toll of less than one million or more than nine million, so the order of magnitude is generally accepted even if the precise number is unknown. Estimated totals: Robertson, John M., A Short History of Christianity (1902) p.278: 9,000,000 Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual: 5,000,000 Henry William Elson, Modern Times and the Living Past, (1921) p. 261: 5,000,000 Om Prakesh Jaggi, Religion, Practice and Science of Non-violence, (1974) p. 40: "The crusades cost Europe five million young men" Fielding Hudson Garrison, Notes on the History of Military Medicine, Association of Military Surgeons, (1922) p. 106: 3,000,000 total, incl. 2,000,000 Europeans MEDIAN: 3 million Philip Alexander Prince, Parallel universal history, an outline of the history and biography of the world divided into ... (1838) p.207: "Although two million souls perished in the Crusades..." Charles Mackay, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841): 2,000,000 Europeans killed. Wertham: 1,000,000 John Shertzer Hittell, A Brief History of Culture (1874) p.137: "In the two centuries of this warfare one million persons had been slain..." If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 7th, 2017 at 8:39:07 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | I think you missed what he said. He moved the goalposts by saying "inquisitions run by the Catholic Church" rather than just "the inquisitions" "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |