Yet another aviation thread.

September 19th, 2017 at 3:27:23 PM permalink
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Qantas could easily fly twice a day SYD-LAX and did so up until recently. They only stopped when they signed the agreement with AA to revenue share (knocked back by the DOT?? but re-filed). They used to fly 1x A380 + 1x 747 daily. They also fly daily BNE-LAX on a 747 + daily MEL-LAX on an A380 + 3x?? Weekly MEL-LAX on a seasonal basis using a 747.

BNE & MEL are only a short flight from SYD anyway so it is more than feasible to connect through those ports or vice versa. I fly on points so I'm forced to be flexible on date and departure port. While I'm in BNE I will be happy to fly out of anywhere if it means I can get a seat in the cabin I want. Last year I flew MEL-LAX on QF93 however next year I am booked out of SYD on QF11.
September 19th, 2017 at 4:18:10 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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It's a matter of technicalities, really. Few "round the world" trips actually travel as far as one equatorial circumference (Voyager surely didn't).

I remember when Concorde set the records in the early 1990s they had to exceed 40,000 km. They needed 7 segments

Concorde F-BTSD holds the fastest around the world
East to West record in 33 hrs 1 min during the Concorde Spirit Tour. Total flying time was 25 hrs 15 mins including 18 hrs 18 mins at supersonic speed.
Route taken was LIS-SDQ-ACA-HNL-GUM-BKK-BAH-LIS = 40,402 km (12-13 Oct 1992)
East to West	23,285 mi
LIS SDQ 3,862 mi
SDQ ACA 1,986 mi
ACA HNL 3,798 mi
HNL GUM 3,802 mi
GUM BKK 2,959 mi
BKK BAH 3,351 mi
BAH LIS 3,531 mi

West to East record in 31 hrs 27 mins set during another Concorde Spirit Tour. Flying time was 24 hrs 42 mins including 18 hrs 46 mins at supersonic speed
Route taken was JFK-TLS-DXB-BKK-GUM-HNL-ACA-JFK = 40,630 km (15-16 Aug 1995)
West to East	22,865 mi
JFK TLS 3,729 mi
TLS DXB 3,268 mi
DXB BKK 3,051 mi
BKK GUM 2,959 mi
GUM HNL 3,802 mi
HNL ACA 3,798 mi
ACA JFK 2,262 mi
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I am more concerned with the ever longer trips on narrow bodies. I've said before they don't have much room to move about.


GUM - HNL 3,802 miles=3300 nautical miles would be risky for a 737-8MAX which has a range of 3500 nm in still air. But it should be doable in an A321neo (long range version) with a range of 4000 nautical miles. I don't think the deliveries so far have been the Long Range variant.

I wonder how long it would take to do the same route in a narrow body without spending 18-19 hours at supersonic speed. I would think 35-40 hours.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:50:51 AM permalink
Nareed
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Ryanair, the airline that has done most to hurt commercial air travel, royally screwed up its roster and now has to cancel a ton of flights. News reports indicate 18,000 fligths and about half a million passengers: http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/ryanair-flight-cancellations-extend-march-customers-michael-oleary-destinations-holidays-travel-a7969846.html

Reports are the "affected" passengers can take a refund or an alternative flight. I wonder what the refund fee will be.

On the plus side, this keeps Alitalia safe from being acquired by the Irish airline.

I wonder how the CEO will keep his job. But that's largely dependent on boardroom politics.
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September 28th, 2017 at 10:05:48 AM permalink
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Ryanair, the airline that has done most to hurt commercial air travel, royally screwed up its roster and now has to cancel a ton of flights.


I read the article, but I am not sure that I understand it.
Wiki says they have 397 Boeing 737-800 with 65 on order. Are they going to slow the delivery rate? Did they book flights based on planes that they don't have yet?

Speaking of Ryanair, who is heavily invest in VivaAerobús, I see that VIVA has retired the last of their old 737s, so their fleet consists of about 22 A320s with an average age of 5 years old. Are they more pleasant to fly now that they have new equipment?
September 28th, 2017 at 10:59:28 AM permalink
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I read the article, but I am not sure that I understand it.


My understanding is they have many pilots on leave/vacation at these times.

I fail to understand how this could have happened.


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Speaking of Ryanair, who is heavily invest in VivaAerobús, I see that VIVA has retired the last of their old 737s, so their fleet consists of about 22 A320s with an average age of 5 years old. Are they more pleasant to fly now that they have new equipment?


I flew Viva a few years ago. I vowed never, ever, to fly with them again, unless there was no other choice.

Based on this experience, I also know not to fly Ryanair, Spirit or Frontier.

It wasn't just the crummy seats, but also the rather lousy service.
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September 28th, 2017 at 1:45:19 PM permalink
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I flew Viva a few years ago. I vowed never, ever, to fly with them again, unless there was no other choice. Based on this experience, I also know not to fly Ryanair, Spirit or Frontier. It wasn't just the crummy seats, but also the rather lousy service.


So it has nothing to do with the old airplanes. You just don't like the ULCC approach.

I think Magnicharters is the last airline left in Mexico with old airplanes. Despite the company have "charters" in their name, they seem to specialize in regularly scheduled flights aiming at tourism primarily to Cancun.
http://www.magnicharters.com/

Mexican fleet is very young today, much younger than most of the world

Magnicharters :27.8 years
Aeromexico Connect :8.7 years
Aeromexico :8.0 years
Interjet :6.6 years
VivaAeroBus :5.2 years
Volaris :4.7 years

1 Delta Airlines 17 years
2 Air Canada 14.2 years
3 United Airlines 14.1 years
4 British Airways 13.2 years
5 Air France 12.6 years
6 Lufthansa 11.5 years
- Southwest Airlines 11.5 years
8 KLM 10.7 years
9 American Airlines 10.3 years
10 Qantas 9.7 years
11 Thai Airways 9.6 years
12 All Nippon Airways 9.4 years
13 Jet Blue Airways 9.3 years
14 Korean Air 9.2 years
15 Japan Airlines 8.7 years
16 LATAM Brazil 8.1 years
- Singapore Airlines 8.1 years
18 Cathay Pacific 7.7 years
19 EasyJet (UK) 7.2 years
20 China Southern Airlines 6.9 years
21 Ryanair 6.5 years
22 Air China 6.3 years
23 Etihad 6.1 years
- Qatar Airways 6.1 years
25 Saudi Arabian Airlines 5.9 years
26 Emirates 5.4 years
27 China Eastern Airlines 5.3 years
28 Hainan Airlines 4.9 years
29 Aeroflot 4.2 years
September 28th, 2017 at 2:38:14 PM permalink
Nareed
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So it has nothing to do with the old airplanes.


I miss old planes. Back then there was more variety. In 2007 I had a chance to fly AeroCalifornia (since deceased) to Guadalajara in a DC-9 variant. I love the look of the wing unencumbered by engines.

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You just don't like the ULCC approach.


That's part of it. I don't care for the lack of leg room, the seat that doesn't recline, and the awful headrests they had.

Then, too, the service was pretty bad:

1) I couldn't check in online, no explanation given.
2) When I checked in at the counter, I asked for a window seat. The agent didn't even bother to tell me there were no assigned seats.
3) On the return trip the flight was delayed over 90 minutes. We were told this was due to bad weather over MEX, which had to clear before we could take off. But 1) I saw our plane land about 30 minutes before we finally boarded, and 2) a flight to Houston was also delayed, and I doubt it was over weather at MEX.

And this was before they started getting pushy with the buy on board items.

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I think Magnicharters is the last airline left in Mexico with old airplanes. Despite the company have "charters" in their name, they seem to specialize in regularly scheduled flights aiming at tourism primarily to Cancun.


I've never flown them. they don't fly places I'm interested in.


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Mexican fleet is very young today, much younger than most of the world


In some ways, though, it's very old. or rather "old fashioned."

I've flown mostly Interjet these past five years or so, and my last flight was in 2015. But to this day I think only Aeromexico has WiFi of any kind or widespread seat-back screens and electrical outlets.

I don't mind the lack of screens, because I just pop and audiobook or podcast and I'm good. but I would love WiFi, especially on short flights, for a change of pace.

BTW, AA will not equip their new 737 MAX fleet with screens. Instead they'll have an on board section of media that passengers can stream to their devices (I assume for a fee), as well as outlets at every seat. That works if you carry a big tablet or a laptop with you. A phone is too small to watch a movie or TV show on.
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September 28th, 2017 at 4:49:13 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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This Podcast was recommended to me by my brother.
Are you interested in SKA? Not the music, but the radio telescopes.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/podcasts/naked-scientists/ska-and-radio-astronomy

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BTW, AA will not equip their new 737 MAX fleet with screens. Instead they'll have an on board section of media that passengers can stream to their devices (I assume for a fee), as well as outlets at every seat. That works if you carry a big tablet or a laptop with you. A phone is too small to watch a movie or TV show on.


Well since a plane lasts for 25 years, and fixed screens are ultra expensive, ultra heavy televisions, which are obsolete in five to ten years, that decision was not difficult to forsee.
September 29th, 2017 at 7:15:37 AM permalink
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This Podcast was recommended to me by my brother.
Are you interested in SKA? Not the music, but the radio telescopes.


That's the first I hear of it, science or music.


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Well since a plane lasts for 25 years, and fixed screens are ultra expensive, ultra heavy televisions, which are obsolete in five to ten years, that decision was not difficult to forsee.


When my old 25" CRT TV died a few years ago, the big problem was carrying it out of the apartment; I wound up borrowing a cart. The 32" LCD that replaced it, I could carry with one hand. So I'd hardly call 10-12" seat back screens ultra-heavy.

More problematic is the extensive wiring and system boxes they require. The latter even take away under-seat space.

We'll have to wait and see how that works.
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September 29th, 2017 at 8:01:00 AM permalink
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That's the first I hear of it, science or music.


As science, I would think it would be right up your alley, as it is essentially looking into the fundamental structure of the universe including the first few hundred thousand years after the big bang.

As music Ska combined elements of Caribbean mento and calypso with American jazz and rhythm and blues. It is characterized by a walking bass line accented with rhythms on the off-beat. The genesis was roughly 60 years ago in Jamaica.

In the 1980s it spread around the world including Mexico City.