Yet another aviation thread.

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January 29th, 2018 at 2:44:58 AM permalink
Aussie
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Wonít you be required to collect your bags in SFO prior to clearing immigration anyway? They wonít go all the way through to LAS before you see them. Just donít bother rechecking them for the later flight and instead check them for and take the earlier flight.
January 29th, 2018 at 5:31:42 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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AFAIK there are only three/four airlines that fly nonstop from Paris to SFO
Air France, United, XL Airways, French Blue ( begins May 11, 2018)

I can only imagine that XL Airways would leave you with a 7 hour delay flying from SFO to LAS
15:45 San Francisco International (SFO) 11:30 +1 day Charles De Gaulle (CDG) Travel time 10h45m, XL Airways France (SE13)
11:00 Charles De Gaulle (CDG) 13:35 San Francisco International (SFO) Travel time 11h35m, XL Airways France (SE12)

Presumably XL Airways has a partner of some sort for domestic connections.
January 29th, 2018 at 7:25:29 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Pacomartin
I'm still trying to figure out how you could have such a bad connection. A seven hour layover and a 90 minute flight is 8.5 hours.
According to google maps it is an 8.5 hour drive from SFO to LAS.


It is on United for what it's worth. Despite having been to Europe five times, China five, Australia two, South America one, Central American & Caribbean five, and countless trips within the US, Canada and Mexico, this will be my first flight paid for with airline miles. The ironic thing is the miles were earned with a credit card.

It cost only 30,000 miles to get on a 9:00 AM flight out of Paris. Any later flight would have cost me 70,000 I think. The difference in total time traveling on the SF layover was only about two hours. I speculate they were having a hard time filling that 9:00 AM flight from Paris to SF so discounted it. I guess United just doesn't have many flights between SF and LV.

In retrospect, I probably should have just ended the journey in SF and caught a Southwest flight to Vegas. Oh well. If I'm not too jet-lagged, maybe I'll take the train into downtown SF for a few hours.
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January 29th, 2018 at 9:23:14 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
It is on United for what it's worth.
It cost only 30,000 miles to get on a 9:00 AM flight out of Paris. Any later flight would have cost me 70,000 I think.


United schedule
9:10am to 11:30am (11h 20m) Paris to San Francisco Roissy-Charles de Gaulle (CDG) to San Francisco Intl. (SFO) United 984

So the problem is not with the CDG-SFO (11:20) primary flight, it is with the final SFO-LAS segment.
They seem to have put you on the THIRD flight which is 7:04 after your arrival

San Francisco to Las Vegas San Francisco Intl. (SFO) to McCarran Intl. (LAS)
(1) 12:50pm to 2:29pm (69 min)
(2) 4:30pm to 6:08pm (69 min)
(3) 6:24pm to 8:03pm (69 min)

So there is a possibility of you flying at a reasonable layover time without changing airlines and risking a security kerfuffle. Maybe they will put you on a list if there is a cancellation. Normally 80 minutes is plenty of time to do a transfer. You should be able to get on the 12:50

San Francisco (SFO)
60 minutes Minimum check-in times for nonstop international flights with or without checked baggage (minutes before departure time)
45 minutes Minimum check-in times for flights within the U.S. with checked baggage (minutes before departure time)
30 minutes Minimum check-in times for flights within the U.S. with carry-on baggage only (minutes before departure time)

Personally I wouldn't risk flagging DHS by scheduling a Southwest or Frontier flight. If you get pulled into security it could cost you way more than 7 hours. I was pulled into security in Sicily, and it took forever to get free. I would try to get a change in your return flight before you leave, or just wait until you land in SFO, put United on speed dial and try to get moved to one of the two earlier flights.

Quote: Wizard
The difference in total time traveling on the SF layover was only about two hours.


The difference compared to what? A Chicago or Newark layover? Or a hypothetical nonstop to Las Vegas.
February 12th, 2018 at 8:32:50 AM permalink
Nareed
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The latest tantrum among the aviation blogs is that Lufthansa's new livery is an abomination :)
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:35:25 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I am curious how the Wizard deals with his long layover time. Is he going to try and solve it when he lands in San Francisco or do something before he flies?
February 15th, 2018 at 7:12:09 AM permalink
Nareed
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On other news, that order for new A380s Emirates announced a while back, has been placed and the papers signed.

It tells you all you need to know about how precarious the A380 program is, that such a thing is news.
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