Terrible, horrible attack in Paris

Quote: terapined

Keep out who?
Most incidents are committed by people born in the country

To my knowledge none of the terrorists in the recent incidents were American citizens. None were born in the USA. I want to keep them out. Wasn't the Manchester killer from Libya?

Quote: SOOPOO

To my knowledge none of the terrorists in the recent incidents were American citizens.

Why bother explaining to a Lib. The
last terrorist they remember was
Timothy McVeith, so they think all
of them are Americans.

Quote: SOOPOO

To my knowledge none of the terrorists in the recent incidents were American citizens. None were born in the USA. I want to keep them out. Wasn't the Manchester killer from Libya?

And when we have a home grown terrorist, like the recent attack in Portland, I want the death penalty for him.

Quote: SOOPOO

To my knowledge none of the terrorists in the recent incidents were American citizens. None were born in the USA. I want to keep them out. Wasn't the Manchester killer from Libya?

 
Salman Ramadan Abedi was born in Britain
The incident happened in Britain

Quote: SOOPOO

And when we have a home grown terrorist, like the recent attack in Portland, I want the death penalty for him.

Why shouldn't Libyan's seek revenge for their entire country, which was the most progressive in the ME, being bombed into the stone age and turned into Jihadi central?

How can we expect every country that is absolutely destroyed that did nothing to us or the UK, to just allow us to bomb them into nothing for no reason, without some form of blow back?

Quote: SOOPOO

Yes.

You really can't see the difference between an individual choosing to protect himself and himself only by wearing a helmet and our government keeping out the animals that commit the recent crimes in Manchester and London?

I guess I can't help you then.

You want me to pay to support it. Combatting terrorism is not free you know. And just like the helmet you want me to deal with whatever restrictions on my acting freely depends. More security to deal with and pay for.

Anyway, what's interesting, is I suggest not that we stop fighting terrorism, but we put realistic measures on risk. And people get upset.

Some of the same people who say they can't be bothered to spend money on something they don't see a point to, calling it robbery if they are made to do it.

Let's take the bias completely out. A non-partisan group of people can compile the top 100 risks, they can include any known benefits and long term risks.

Once we have them ordered by risk, we just put blank numbers over them. You won't be able to know anything about them except where they rank.

Then you choose. Why would you choose out of order? It's not smart. You put the most resources where the biggest risk. If 80% of spending need to go to the top 20, so be it.

Quote: rxwine

You want me to pay to support it. Combatting terrorism is not free you know. And just like the helmet you want me to deal with whatever restrictions on my acting freely depends. More security to deal with and pay for.

Admitting Islam is a problem is the first step and totally free.

I already don't like any religions. But I don't like superstitious thinking, or people who think science is a sham, and people who won't pitch in for the good of humanity except if they feel like it. And misuse of facts. And made-up facts. And people who intentionally distort information to confuse the issue.