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| April 14th, 2017 at 11:32:37 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You're so funny. You know as well as I do there are so called saints in your own religion that cried out their entire lives for god to reveal himself to them in even the tiniest fashion. He never did and they were made saints because they kept the faith anyway. You say just a little prayer and getting your mind right and god will pop up every time, like a jack in the box. Maybe you should think a little more about the story you've bought into and what reality is. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2017 at 11:52:41 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You are wrong. These saints all had many moments in their life when God revealed Himself very powerfully. Mother Teresa is probably the best modern example. She saw clearly many times in her life Christ truly present and loved in the poorest of the poor and those dying with no one to love them. Then in her later years she persevered through what St. John of the Cross would call a "Dark Night of the Soul" a time of deep spiritual desolation. During this time God does reveal Himself but not in the emotional or obvious ways we often associate with His presence.
I know that for someone like yourself God wants to reveal Himself and will most certainly do so if you give Him a real opportunity. You don't have to worry about having any saintly dark nights of the soul. What you need now is the sweet consolation of His real presence and God knows you are a long way off from being able to withstand the feeling of His absence. He will reveal Himself to you I promise if you forgive others, receive forgiveness, follow the commandments and most importantly pray! In fact skip the other steps for now and just really sincerely commit yourself to honest and open prayer asking God to reveal Himself to you. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| April 14th, 2017 at 12:10:59 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I don't have an opinion on it, it's not an issue, why would it be. You will never understand atheists as long as you live. God is as important to us as any other fictional character, that's to say, not at all. In fact, I understand many fictional characters better than I understand god. When I think of Paul Bunyon, an image pops into my head. With god, I get nothing. He's a vague reference that people pray to when they want things, when they want something to change in their lives. Love god they say. He's a blob of nothingness floating out there somewhere (I guess that's how believers think of him) and what's lovable about that. He really needs a better PR dept. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2017 at 1:28:28 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
And do you wonder why don't believe, why you can't see any evidence for God's existence or really listen to anything I am saying?
Good point, when loving God think of Him as the person of Jesus of Nazareth. A real person who is God, who was born for you, died for you, and was raised for you. A real living person who loves you more than you can ever imagine. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| April 14th, 2017 at 2:07:56 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I never wonder at that, any more than I wonder at the other things I don't believe in. Take a moment, there must be a myriad of things you don't believe. How much time do you give that list a day. I'm guessing not any at all. Why would you. Now you see an atheists position.
Not even the Jews believe that, and he supposedly died for them. The Jews think Jesus was a fraud. In fact: "For many Jews, the name alone is nearly synonymous with pogroms and Crusades, charges of deicide and centuries of Christian anti-Semitism." If Jesus believers did this to the very people Jesus came to save, what does this say about them. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2017 at 3:05:03 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You don't believe it either and he died for you too.
Some people do awful things to each other, it certainly is not what Christ wants. It says about them that they really aren't following Christ or the Church He established. Just finished Good Friday and here is the Intercession the Universal Church prayed for the Jewish People: VI. For the Jewish people Let us pray also for the Jewish people, to whom the Lord our God spoke first, that he may grant them to advance in love of his name and in faithfulness to his covenant. Prayer in silence. Then the Priest says: Almighty ever-living God, who bestowed your promises on Abraham and his descendants, hear graciously the prayers of your Church, that the people you first made your own may attain the fullness of redemption. Through Christ our Lord. R. Amen. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| April 14th, 2017 at 4:12:40 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I can guarantee he didn't know that.
They follow their own greedy ambition, like everybody else, and cloak it in religion. It's worked since the beginning of time.
The difference between prayer, and doing nothing at all, is in reality one and the same. It makes you feel good and does nothing at all for the one being prayed about. It's giving yourself a power you don't have, to intercede with a higher authority on someones behalf, where no such power exists. I don't know if it's the ultimate in hubris, but it's close. hubris; noun 1. excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 15th, 2017 at 6:30:30 AM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | If praying makes someone feel good then I say pray away. At least they won't have a hangover the next day or get arrested for dui. |
| April 24th, 2017 at 3:18:02 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | The evidence for UFOs is so overwhelming I'm going to base my whole life around it and argue with skeptics who fail to recognize the TRUTH...
...or not. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/people-are-seeing-ufos-everywhere-and-this-book-proves-it/ar-BBAhey6?ocid=spartanntp You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| April 24th, 2017 at 3:28:29 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
There is as much evidence for vehicles from another planet as there is for god existing, none at all. UFO can mean a kids balloon, but everybody jumps to other conclusion. Drones account for most of the increase in sightings. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |