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June 26th, 2018 at 7:28:53 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I can't think of any off hand. Bob, I agree society makes laws and in the measure they agree with God's law they can be considered good. But anyway, you keep saying the concept of sin isn't real yet you describe it just fine in secular terms. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 26th, 2018 at 8:05:10 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Yeah, no. You have it backwards. First came mans laws and then to make them sound official they said they came from some god. There is no god, how can a nonexistent being have laws. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 26th, 2018 at 8:35:58 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I admit this would be a conundrum if there was no God. How could we expkain the universal and objective nature of certain laws and morality. Without God, or some higher authority than man made society's laws how could anyone claim to have laws that were good or true. Wouldn't anyone else's different laws be just as good or true if man was the highest authority? Boy, it sure is good there is a God or you'd be in a lot of trouble as would our world. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 26th, 2018 at 8:41:17 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
You love to make everything so complicated. No god, no laws from god. End of story. Overthinking everything is how the problem of religion started. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 26th, 2018 at 8:57:23 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Not thinking about anything is how the problem of atheism started. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 27th, 2018 at 12:18:35 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Very close to the truth. Atheists don't look at something they don't understand and invent supernatural answers out of thin air. That's a waste of time that could be spent looking for the real reasons things are what they are. Look at Islam 1200 years ago. They had a civilization far advanced for the time, they practically invented advanced math. Then your god came along and all that went into the toilet, Islam has been stagnant ever since. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 27th, 2018 at 3:31:48 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Believers don't invent supernatural answers to things we don't understand. Your tilting at windmills and swinging at straw men. You do know of course that Christianity predates Islam? Let's not blame Islamic fundamentalism and lack of critical reform on Christianity. That is really a strange idea. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 27th, 2018 at 4:01:33 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Of course believers invent supernatural answers to things we don't understand. Miracles and exorcism are two modern examples. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 27th, 2018 at 11:37:16 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
I'm not and I didn't. I blamed it on the worship of a god. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 27th, 2018 at 12:02:03 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Muslims often don't get credit for their contributions. I hadn't considered that maybe it was the crusades that changed their advancement? "https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-6106905.html" "One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash" The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |