Simple question?

Quote: AZDuffman

Many people like to state that there is no God or sin because sin puts constraints on their personal behavior.

Do you think then that all Buddhists are immoral and sin merchants?

Quote: AZDuffman

You keep stating this, though all evidence is against you. .

Sin is transgression of gods law. That's the
definition. It's supposedly what Jesus died
for, mans transgressions of gods law.

There is no god, so sin is impossible. It's
an invention to control people. The
theory that atheists don't believe in god
or sin because it lets us do whatever
we want is bullshite. Prisons are stuffed
to overflowing with good ol god fearing
Christians and nary an atheist to be found.

Quote: pew

So it is laws you're talking about.

No. it's the reason such laws exist.

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Can you give me one or two laws that restrict your rights.

You tell me. How does one achieve salvation by restricting a free international labor market, or by making it a crime to use a public restroom, or by enabling people to discriminate a small minority?

Quote: Evenbob

There is no god, so sin is impossible.

Nope, there is a God so sin is possible.

Again, if you want to defend your point, please explain how life sprung up from no life instead of just saying "no it isn't" as if we are in some Monty Python sketch.

Quote: AZDuffman

Again, if you want to defend your point, please explain how life sprung up from no life instead of just saying .

How many times do I have to say this?
A hundred? The universe has always
been here in one form or another
and always will be. There is no creation,
only evolution and change. We can't
grasp that any more than we can grasp
some god out there responsible for
it all. God is just an intellectual concept
trying to explain it all by explaining nothing
at all.

Quote: Evenbob

How many times do I have to say this?
A hundred? The universe has always
been here in one form or another
and always will be. There is no creation,
only evolution and change. We can't
grasp that any more than we can grasp
some god out there responsible for
it all. God is just an intellectual concept
trying to explain it all by explaining nothing
at all.

You are proving nothing. The earth was formed without life 4.5 billion years ago. Since then life has formed. It did not travel from elsewhere. Where did it come from?

Quote: AZDuffman

Where did it come from?

It didn't 'come' from anywhere, it's always
been here in one form or another. Before
and after the big bang. Makes more sense
than a magical god that we can't see creating
everything. That would be the final choice
after every other possible explanation has been
vetted. In other words, it will never be a choice.

Quote: Evenbob

It didn't 'come' from anywhere, it's always
been here in one form or another. Before
and after the big bang. Makes more sense
than a magical god that we can't see creating
everything. That would be the final choice
after every other possible explanation has been
vetted. In other words, it will never be a choice.

No, it was not here. When the solar system happened there were no conditions for life until a few billion years later. Then life sprong up. How did this happen? Life cannot spontaneously generate.

Quote: AZDuffman

Life cannot spontaneously generate.

It didn't. The seeds of it have always been
here in one form or another. Blaming god
for everything is the last thing a scientific
mind does after every possible theory has
has been eliminated. Instead, people just
throw their hands in the air and say 'god did
it, lets move on.'

Quote: Evenbob

It didn't. The seeds of it have always been
here in one form or another. Blaming god
for everything is the last thing a scientific
mind does after every possible theory has
has been eliminated. Instead, people just
throw their hands in the air and say 'god did
it, lets move on.'

It had to generate from somewhere.