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May 19th, 2019 at 6:46:39 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: SOOPOO
I felt that the omnipotent, omnipresent would not need us people to continually pray for him, nor would he WANT us to! There must be better things that he's want the humans to do....
Yes, something on that Big Bang Theory show about God not judging them or taking attendance at church.
May 19th, 2019 at 10:38:14 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: SOOPOO
Bob has plagiarized my brain. Ever since I was very young (9ish?) I've always questioned why my Hebrew prayers were basically a continuous praising of God. .


Primitives invent a god that explains
everything because they have no idea
how to explain anything themselves.
It's very easy when you have a textbook
that explains some science, and you
build on that. Discovering the original
science is monumentally difficult,
better to just blame everything on
the supernatural, a god.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 19th, 2019 at 1:33:37 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Just to be clear I also do not believe in a Gof of the gaps.
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May 19th, 2019 at 2:36:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Just to be clear I also do not believe in a Gof of the gaps.


Sure you do, wholeheartedly. It's
all you've got, in fact. You certainly
don't have a shred of real evidence
for any gods existence.

A Xtion saying he doesn't believe
in a god of the gaps is like the
heroin addict who says he can
quit anytime he likes. He's kidding
himself..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 19th, 2019 at 4:12:01 PM permalink
FrGamble
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The way you are defining God of the gaps is that someone turns to God to explain natural phenomenon they don't understand. I don't do that I turn to my love of science for those answers. The questions God answers are those not able to be addressed by science. Things like why is there something rather than nothing? Why am I here? What us my purpose? What should I do and what us love and happiness?
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May 19th, 2019 at 8:21:00 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
TThings like why is there something rather than nothing?


That's not a legitimate question.
Something and nothing coexist,
you can't have one without the
other. Like light and dark.

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Why am I here?


Why not here, it's as good a place
as any. Where would you rather
be.

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What is my purpose?


Whatever you want it to be, how else.
No purpose lies outside of yourself,
how could it. You create your own
reality.

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What should I do


Whatever you feel you should do,
follow your bliss.

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what is love and happiness?


You'll know it when you have it,
it's different for everybody.

See, those are easy questions
to answer, you don't have to
invent a god to do it.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 19th, 2019 at 9:29:35 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Wow, you are so egotistical in these answers. You haven't rejected God, you've just made yourself into one. It is the oldest sin. You make yourself into the center of the universe. Follow my bliss, no outside reality than myself, I create my own meaning. This is the type of twisted thinking that is the cause of all of the problems in our world today. We need religion precisely to combat this stinking thinking.

In regards to your statement about nothingness you are not being scientific. Everything, even what you preceive as nothing is something. Even space has dimensions and is in time. What do you mean when you say nothingness exists? Where? How do you know it exists?
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May 20th, 2019 at 2:31:04 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
You haven't rejected God, you've just made yourself into one.


Of course, and so have you. There
is no real god, so thou art god.
The difference is, you wear a
a white collar proclaiming your
godliness, and I'm more subtle
about it.

Duh..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 20th, 2019 at 7:28:51 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
Of course, and so have you. There
is no real god, so thou art god.
The difference is, you wear a
a white collar proclaiming your
godliness, and I'm more subtle
about it.

Duh..


First of all I'm surprised that all your weird arguments about Christianity being egotistical so easily just crashed down around you. All this time you were being the most egotistical of all and claiming to be God. You might call it subtle, but I really wish you were more honest or more consistent with your arguments.

Anyway, your claim of ultimate hubris to be God could not be further from me. I claim nothing other than I am a loved sinner and that God is God and I am not. He must increase and I must decrease. My life is not my own, but I serve Jesus Christ and the Church He established. I see absolutely zero similarities between your thoughts and mine.
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May 20th, 2019 at 10:28:14 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I claim nothing other than I am a loved sinner and that God is God and I am not. .


Do an exercise, pretend for one minute
that no god exists. If that's the case, of
course you have set yourself up as a
god, your whole church has. If you
allegedly represent an entity that
doesn't exist, then you yourself are
that entity and have the authority
to torture people who don't agree
with you, and even burn them at
the stake if you wish.

You have the 'authority' to do anything
you like in the name of that god you
can't even prove exists. Scary, huh. And
that's the history of your church. Scary
in capital letters.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.