President Obama foreign travel very different from Bush

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May 27th, 2017 at 12:54:03 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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The first international trip of President Trump was probably not a raging success, but it does seem to have deflected some criticism from domestic policies.

It is only six weeks until he returns to Hamburg, Germany for the 2017 G20 summit.

The G20 is being held in a city of 1.7 million people within an easy train ride of tens of millions more, while the G-7 summit was held in an ancient town on a mountaintop with a population 10,000 . Obviously you are going to expect more protests.

It's only another 500 miles to Warsaw, and Poland has been lobbying for Trump to visit a country where he is fairly popular.

President Obama's first three trips to Europe were multiple destination trips. His next three trips were single stop, single purpose visits to Scandinavia.

October 2, 2009 Denmark In support of the Chicago bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics.
December 9–11, 2009 Norway Received the Nobel Peace Prize.
December 17–19, 2009 Denmark Attended the United Nations Climate Change Conference.

What do you think the POTUS will do for a side trip in six weeks? Will he simply go and return ?
May 27th, 2017 at 2:20:16 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
The first international trip of President Trump was probably not a raging success, but it does seem to have deflected some criticism from domestic policies.


Old Golden Boy is frail and in poor health: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-golf-cart-g7-sicily-2017-5

Quote:
"They walked the 700 yards from the traditional G7 group photo, taken at a Greek amphitheatre, to a piazza in the hilltop town, but Mr Trump stayed behind until he could take a seat in the electric vehicle," The Times reported.


In all fairness, 700 yards is a loooong distance for someone in terrible physical shape.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 28th, 2017 at 12:33:06 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Nareed
In all fairness, 700 yards is a loooong distance for someone in terrible physical shape.


I've been to that theater. It may have not been the 700 yards, but the climb out of the theater may have been what he was trying to avoid.


That theater is about 2400 years old. They often built very tall stone steps in those days. The golf cart probably went a very nonscenic route that was designed to bring in equipment. If your knees are bad, they can be difficult.

He is much older than the rest of the group

Donald John Trump June 14, 1946 (age 70)
Angela Merkel 17 July 1954 (age 62)
Abe Shinzō 21 September 1954 (age 62)
Paolo Gentiloni Silveri 22 November 1954 (age 62)
Jean-Claude Juncker 9 December 1954 (age 62)
Donald Franciszek Tusk 22 April 1957 (age 60)
Theresa May 1 October 1956 (age 60)
Justin Pierre James Trudeau December 25, 1971 (age 45)
Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron 21 December 1977 (age 39)

May 28th, 2017 at 4:01:46 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
The first international trip of President Trump was probably not a raging success


Trump’s First Foreign Trip Was a Huge Success

"He was clear, concise and disciplined. Those were the key ingredients that created a striking success for President Trump in his first foreign trip.. Trump’s clarity on the global stage was a reminder of why he was elected... he cut through the BS to get to the heart of contentious issues and offer forceful solutions."

http://nypost.com/2017/05/27/trumps-first-foreign-trip-was-a-huge-success/
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May 28th, 2017 at 4:59:20 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
It may have not been the 700 yards, but the climb out of the theater may have been what he was trying to avoid.


Poor baby.

Quote:
That theater is about 2400 years old. They often built very tall stone steps in those days.


I'm familiar with ancient Mediterranean architecture (plenty of it in Israel). It's no hardship for anyone in decent shape.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 29th, 2017 at 4:01:11 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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The hotel where the heads of state slept is about a kilometer from the hotel where the meetings were held. The hotel where they slept is right next to the Greco Roman amphitheater.

The hotel is next to one of the original tourist destinations in Europe just as the northern Europeans were indulging in a romantic journey to southern Europe. The 70 rooms range from 400 to 600 Euros and about 3500 euros for the 1000 square foot presidential suite. The Secret Service refused to let Trump stay there so he slept at the base 40 miles away and they built him a heliport.

Quote: Nareed
It's no hardship for anyone in decent shape.


The whole town is very tiny, and very walkable. The 10,000 residents support 6,000 hotel rooms, but there are thousands of hotel rooms at the nearby beaches.

If you are very lucky, Etna is erupting in the background.


Quote: Hotel Timeo early history

1787: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe wrote for the first time about the Greek Theatre in his Italian Journey

1863: Otto Gèleng, a 20-year-old Prussian baron, visited Taormina to paint watercolours and took residence in a private house belonging to Don Francesco La Floresta.

Don Francesco had started renting rooms in 1850 and called his house “Timeo”, the name of the founder of the Greek city “Tauromenion” in 358 BC. Geleng’s watercolours of the snow-capped Etna and its green slopes overlooking the sea created enormous interest in Berlin and Paris, resulting in a series of artists visiting Taormina, staying at Don Francesco’s “Timeo” house.

1874: Don Francesco sold an orange field and with the proceeds bought a house right below the Greek Theatre, where he continued his activity with five guest rooms on the spot where Belmond Grand Timeo now stands.

1883: Don Francesco and his son Giuseppe enlarged the Timeo to 12 rooms. The American writer and art critic Bernhard Berenson remembers the Timeo as the only hotel in Taormina.

1896: Giuseppe La Floresta inherited the Timeo after the death of Don Francesco and added 60 new rooms to the existing 12 between 1896 and 1906. By now, the Timeo was a hotel of great standing, visited by emperors, kings and grand dukes of European courts who wanted to spend winter in a warm climate. Thanks to this mild weather the Timeo was a winter resort and closed between May and October. In 1896, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany visited Taormina, stayed at the Timeo, and returned in 1904 and 1906 when he rented the entire hotel for a month for his family and court. Luxury tourism kept increasing until the First World War and thereafter, from 1920 to 1929, during the time of the Belle Epoque in Europe

1906: The Timeo was first visited by Edward VII, King of England, and his wife Augusta, followed by further visits in 1907 and 1908.

1920: The English writer D. H. Lawrence lived at the Timeo for four years, during which time he wrote Lady Chatterley’s Lover. When Giuseppe died, the Timeo was inherited by his son, Francesco, nick-named Don Ciccino, who continued to manage the hotel. During the Second World War, the Timeo was requisitioned for a number of years by the British Royal Air Force.
May 29th, 2017 at 4:42:30 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Nareed
Old Golden Boy is frail and in poor health:


Are you joking? 2100 feet is 40% of a mile.
Your average overweight American in their
40's would be huffing and puffing. What's
funny is, if this was Reagan at 70, nobody
would say anything. But for some reason
Trump at 70 is a different matter.
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May 29th, 2017 at 5:57:51 PM permalink
Dalex64
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So I guess he's not the healthiest person ever elected.
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May 29th, 2017 at 6:07:56 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Evenbob
Are you joking? 2100 feet is 40% of a mile.
Your average overweight American in their
40's would be huffing and puffing. What's
funny is, if this was Reagan at 70, nobody
would say anything. But for some reason
Trump at 70 is a different matter.


Hillary would have had the stamina to walk with the other leaders.
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May 29th, 2017 at 7:15:25 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
What's funny is, if this was Reagan at 70, nobody would say anything. But for some reason Trump at 70 is a different matter.


That is true. People are not rational about these things. It has a lot to do with the relative age of the spouse. People, unfortunately are obsessed with stamina.

Birthdays

Ronald Reagan; February 6, 1911
Jane; January 5, 1917
Nancy; July 6, 1921

Donald Trump; June 14, 1946
Ivana; February 20, 1949
Marla; October 27, 1963
Melania; April 26, 1970

But to be fair before Trump took office, JW gleefully announced that Obama averaged over $12m per year on travel. The ire has become difficult to sustain as Trump has spent $21 million going to Florida alone this year.

Quote: Judicial Watch

‘Earth Day’ Travel Bill Over $1 Million, Hillary Clinton’s Ride on Air Force One Cost $360,000
(Washington DC)—Judicial Watch announced today that it has received new documents from both the Secret Service and the Air Force relating to Obama travel expenses, bringing the known total over the past eight years to $96,938,882.51. The reports contain information regarding Obama’s Earth Day trip to the Florida Everglades, a political fundraising trip to San Diego, Michelle Obama’s annual Aspen ski trip, her trip to Morocco, a family vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, as well as Hillary’s ride with Obama on Air Force One to North Carolina.
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