President Obama foreign travel very different from Bush

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May 29th, 2017 at 8:08:31 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
That is true. People are not rational about these things. It has a lot to do with the relative age of the spouse. People, unfortunately are obsessed with stamina.


Comparing trump to Reagan is like comparing a firecracker to a nuclear weapon. But let's see:

On March 30th 1981, Reagan took a bullet to the chest. Upon arriving at the hospital a few minutes later, coughing blood, with a partially collapsed lung and bleeding internally, he insisted on walking in.

Trump can't handle some steps.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
July 3rd, 2017 at 5:44:51 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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It was no surprise that President Trump tacked on a summit meeting in Poland the day before the G20 meeting in Germany. The Polish people had signed an online petition encouraging Trump to visit their country.

It is a surprise that Trump is going to a Bastille Day parade in Paris a week after the G20 meeting. Presumably he isn't going on vacation, so I must assume he is flying back across the Atlantic
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/28/donald-trump-france-visit-bastille-day-240042

This will tie President Obama's three trips to Europe by mid July in 2009.


No discussion about that the North American Leaders Summit that began in 2005
2005 United States March 23 Waco, Texas George W. Bush
2006 Mexico March 31 Cancún, Quintana Roo Vicente Fox
2007 Canada August 2021 Montebello, Quebec Stephen Harper
2008 United States April 2122 New Orleans, Louisiana George W. Bush
2009 Mexico August 811 Guadalajara, Jalisco Felipe Calderon
2010 No meeting held
2011 No meeting held
2012 United States April 2 Washington, D.C. Barack Obama
2013 No meeting held
2014 Mexico February 19 Toluca, State of Mexico Enrique Peña Nieto
2015 No meeting held
2016 Canada June 29 Ottawa, Ontario Justin Trudeau
July 16th, 2017 at 1:31:11 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Preisdent Trump has now visited the Central Time Zone just 4 times

March 15 Tennessee Nashville President Trump made remarks at the Hermitage on the 250th birthday of Andrew Jackson
April 18 Wisconsin Kenosha President Trump visited the headquarters of Snap-on Inc. in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
June 13 Wisconsin Milwaukee, Pewaukee President Trump visited Wisconsin to talk about apprenticeships to close skills gap
June 21 Iowa Cedar Rapids This was Trump's first visit as president to a state west of the Mississippi

He has yet to visit the Mountain or Pacific Time Zones as POTUS. He has been to 12 states in Eastern Time Zone. Since most of the time the POTUS tries to visit all 50 states he has a long way to go.
July 16th, 2017 at 9:08:26 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: Pacomartin
Preisdent Trump has now visited the Central Time Zone just 4 times...

He has yet to visit the Mountain or Pacific Time Zones as POTUS. He has been to 12 states in Eastern Time Zone. Since most of the time the POTUS tries to visit all 50 states he has a long way to go.


Let's see...he's been to 15 already based on 12 in the Eastern Time Zone and 3 in the Central...he can get to all 57 in less than four years...

Do they usually try to visit all 50 in one year? He's on pace for 30 now...so he would have to pick ti up to do that...
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July 16th, 2017 at 10:59:28 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: RonC
Let's see...he's been to 15 already based on 12 in the Eastern Time Zone and 3 in the Central...he can get to all 57 in less than four years....


Obama said he got to all 57, but
of course he didn't. That's almost
as good as Terry McCauliffe saying
millions get killed every day in the US
with guns.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 16th, 2017 at 11:32:54 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: RonC
Let's see...he's been to 15 already based on 12 in the Eastern Time Zone and 3 in the Central...he can get to all 57 in less than four years...

Do they usually try to visit all 50 in one year? He's on pace for 30 now...so he would have to pick ti up to do that...


Not in one year.

George H.W. Bush did it in four years, the others finished in their second term. Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama.

George W. Bush notably visited every single state before leaving the White House except Vermont, incidentally home to a heavy -- if symbolic -- push to impeach him.

Photographs of Obama in all 50 states (completed in May 2015).
https://medium.com/vantage/behind-the-lens-photographing-the-president-in-50-states-8202eca6408

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President Trump has indicated that he was not as interested in symbolic travel as his predecessors. The implication was that he would not travel internationally except for the summit meetings and side trips.

Obviously he visited The Vatican, Jerusalem, and Riyadh as a side trip to the double summit meetings of G-7 and NATO. He went to Poland as a side trip to G-20. Then he surprised people a little by going to Paris for Bastille Day celebrations.

But it's been 6 months and he hasn't visited Canada or Mexico, preferring to meet with the Presidents of those countries while at summit meetings or at the White House.

The only visit not part of the six major summits (G7, G20, NATO, Summit of Americas, APEC, East Asia ) semi scheduled is a trip to the UK which has been moved to sometime in 2018.

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It was thought that President Obama with a Kenyan father would visit Sub-Saharan Africa more than previous presidents, but he actually went less.

Obama visited 6 countries: Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Senegal , Tanzania, South Africa (a 2nd trip for Mandela's funeral service)
GW Bush visited 9 countries: Benin, Botswana, Ghana, Liberia, Nigeria, Rwanda, Senegal, South Africa, and Tanzania.
July 17th, 2017 at 7:29:27 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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President Trump has flown internationally three times (15,576 mies, 8,959 miles, and 7,491 miles)


ADW RUH 6,732 mi
RUH TLV 867 mi
TLV FCO 1,418 mi
FCO BRU 729 mi
BRU NSY 1,065 mi
NSY ADW 4,767 mi
15,576 mi

ADW WAW 4,472 mi
WAW HAM 470 mi
HAM ADW 4,018 mi
8,959 mi

ADW CDG 3,842 mi
CDG EWR 3,649 mi
7,491 mi
September 2nd, 2017 at 3:16:08 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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The question is DJT visiting the states that did not vote for him?

The answer seems to be YES, but often because he owns property there
Connecticut 1
Delaware 1
Nevada 1
Maryland 2
New York 3
New Jersey 3
Virginia 20

States that voted for Trump and number of visits
Arizona 1
Florida 8
Georgia 1
Iowa 1
Kentucky 1
Louisiana 1
Michigan 1
Missouri 1
Ohio 2
Pennsylvania 2
South Carolina 1
Tennessee 1
Texas 1
West Virginia 2
Wisconsin 2
Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska 
North Carolina
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Utah
Wyoming


President Obama, Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton all went to all 50 states while in office. President GW Bush never made it to Vermont, but he went to the other 49. President George H.W. Bush was notable in that he had only 4 years to fly around to all those states.
September 2nd, 2017 at 7:40:08 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
The question is DJT visiting the states that did not vote for him?


They'd be happy if he didn't, I assume. I certainly don't want to see him here, and I can assure you he'd regret coming.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
September 2nd, 2017 at 7:50:27 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Nareed
They'd be happy if he didn't, I assume. I certainly don't want to see him here, and I can assure you he'd regret coming.


He has shown little or no interest in visiting any other country in the Americas. Now next year he has to go to three summit meetings in the Americas.

best hotel in Lima

Summit Of Americas , March 23 Peru Lima
G-20 TBD, Argentina Buenos Aires
G-7 June 89, Canada, La Malbaie-Quebec

The new luxury hotel in Charlevoix was inaugurated June 1929, so DJT won't have to walk around a bunch of ancient ruins.


Obama and Bush visits to the Americas as President (# of times)
Mexico O-5, B-6
Canada O-3, B-4
Brazil O-1, B-2
Colombia O-1, B-2
Peru O-1, B-2
Argentina O-1, B-1
Chile O-1, B-1
El Salvador O-1, B-1
Panama O-1, B-1
Guatemala B-1
Costa Rica, Cuba, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago O-1

Normally the North American Leaders' Summit would meet in 2018, but there has been no mention of it. It is USA's turn to host next year.
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