President Obama foreign travel very different from Bush

February 23rd, 2018 at 10:26:30 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Seven Weeks! Trump in Latin America
President Trump's SIXTH international trip is coming up (April 13–14, 2018) when he is scheduled to attend the 8th Summit of the Americas. The 7th Summit was three years ago in Panama
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:13:28 AM permalink
Nareed
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Seven Weeks! Trump in Latin America


I thought he was afraid to visit places where he'll face protests.
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February 23rd, 2018 at 2:11:20 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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President Obama made 15 trips to Latin America and Caribbean in his eight years as POTUS.

  1. Mexico City April 16–17, 2009 President Obama met with President Felipe Calderón.
  2. Port of Spain April 17–19 5th Summit of the Americas.
  3. Guadalajara August 9–10 North American Leaders' Summit.
    ------------- No visits in 2010
  4. Brasília, Rio de Janeiro March 19–21, 2011
  5. Santiago March 21–22
  6. San Salvador March 22–23
  7. Cartagena April 13–15, 2012 State visit to Colombia to take part in the 6th Summit of the Americas
  8. San José del Cabo June 17–19 G-20 summit meeting.
    ------------- Second Term
  9. Mexico City May 2–3, 2013
  10. San José May 3–4
  11. Toluca February 19, 2014 North American Leaders' Summit
  12. Panama City April 10–11, 2015 7th Summit of the Americas.
  13. Havana March 20–22, 2016
  14. Buenos Aires, Bariloche March 23–24
  15. Lima November 18–20 APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting in Lima, Obama's last international trip as President
Quote: Nareed
I thought he was afraid to visit places where he'll face protests.

I think that is the question. He can't really skip the summits, but will he make any courtesy visits.
  1. Lima, April 13–14, 2018 President Trump is scheduled to attend the 8th Summit of the Americas.
  2. Buenos Aires, Nov 30 – Dec 1, 2018 President Trump is scheduled to attend the 2018 G20 Buenos Aires summit.

The 9th Summit of the Americas will probably occur in April 2021, so it may be a new POTUS. The North American Leaders Summit seems like it might be caput. So it is conceivable these two trips will be his only ones to Latin America
February 23rd, 2018 at 2:30:06 PM permalink
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The 9th Summit of the Americas will probably occur in April 2021, so it may be a new POTUS. The North American Leaders Summit seems like it might be caput. So it is conceivable these two trips will be his only ones to Latin America


You know what we need? An antonym for "surprise".
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February 26th, 2018 at 6:24:51 PM permalink
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You know what we need? An antonym for "surprise".


If President Trump makes a yearly visit to Asia organized around the East Asia Summit (EAS) , plus the G20 in Tokyo, that would make 5 visits to Asia, 2 to Latin America, and zero to Africa that would be the most paltry number of visits outside of Europe since President Bush senior




President Bush's trips outside of Europe.
-- Asia ---
February 23–25, 1989 Japan Tokyo Attended the funeral of Emperor Hirohito.
February 25–27, 1989 China Beijing
February 27, 1989 South Korea

January 3, 1992 Australia:Sydney,Canberra,Melbourne
January 3–5, 1992 Singapore
January 5–7, 1992 South Korea
January 7–10, 1992 Kyoto,Kashihara,Tokyo


-- Latin America ---
October 27–28, 1989 Costa Rica San José

February 15, 1990 Colombia

November 26–27, 1990 Mexico Monterrey,Agualeguas State visit. met with President Carlos Salinas de Gortari.
December 3–4, 1990 Brazil Brasília Met with President Fernando Collor de Mello. Addressed a Joint Session of the Brazilian Congress.
December 4–5, 1990 Uruguay Montevideo Met with President Luis Alberto Lacalle. Addressed a Joint Session of the Uruguayan Congress.
December 5–6, 1990 Argentina Buenos Aires Met with President Carlos Menem. Addressed a Joint Session of the Argentinean Congress.
December 6–7, 1990 Chile Santiago Met with President Patricio Aylwin. Addressed a Joint Session of the Chilean Congress.
December 7–8, 1990 Venezuela Caracas Met with President Carlos Andres Perez.

December 8th, 1990 : VC-25 turned over to White House

June 11, 1992 Panama Panama City Met with President Guillermo Endara. Delivered public addresses.
June 12–13, 1992 Brazil Rio de Janeiro Attended the Earth Summit Meeting.

December 31, 1992 Saudi Arabia Riyadh Met with King Fahd.

January 2, 1993 Somalia Mogadishu,Baidoa, Baledogle Visited international relief workers and U.S. military personnel.

Thanksgiving Day, 1990. President Bush visited American troops in Saudi Arabia

July 20–21, 1991 Turkey Ankara,Istanbul Met with President Turgut Ozal.

March 14, 1991 France Martinique Fort-de-France Discussed the Middle East peace process with President François Mitterrand.
March 14–16, 1991 Bermuda Hamilton Discussed the Middle East peace process with Prime Minister John Major.
February 26th, 2018 at 7:23:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Good. Foreign trips cost a ton of
money and accomplish little. Trump
has traveled extensively all his life,
it's boring and routine to him. I always
suspected presidents traveled a lot
because it's not on their dime and
when they retire it's pretty much over.
Trump could care less about traveling.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 26th, 2018 at 7:53:34 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Like all of those trips to mar-a-lago?
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February 26th, 2018 at 9:33:15 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
Like all of those trips to mar-a-lago?


No. Like all the trips that Trump took as
a private citizen for business to EU and
Asia all the time. Or the Middle East. He
has properties in Turkey, Phillipines,
Panama, Mumbai, S Korea, Uruguay,
India, Ireland, Scotland, Dubai. He had
a 757, not a Piper Cub.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 26th, 2018 at 11:35:32 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Dalex64
Like all of those trips to mar-a-lago?


Trump has been to VA more often than FL. Of course VA is only 2 miles away from the White House
32 visits to Virginia
16 visits to Florida
10 visits to New Jersey
February 27th, 2018 at 12:03:54 AM permalink
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In November 1928, President-elect Hoover embarked on a ten-nation goodwill tour of Latin America. He delivered twenty-five speeches, stressing his plans to reduce American political and military interference in Latin American affairs. In sum, he pledged that the United States would act as a "good neighbor."
Since then some kind of goodwill visits to Latin America have been a hallmark of every presidency.

Quote: Evenbob
Good. Foreign trips cost a ton of money and accomplish little.


George H. W. Bush visited 58 different countries | 26 trips
Bill Clinton visited 74 different countries | 54 trips
George W. Bush visited 73 different countries | 48 trips
Barack Obama visited 58 different countries. | 52 trips
Donald Trump visited 15 different countries. | 5 trips

Putting 'America First,' Trump said to plan lighter foreign travel than predecessors

3 summit meetings in 2018-2019 in Latin America, none else are scheduled for this presidential term. No mention of good will visit has been made so far.
5 summit meetings scheduled in Asia for this presidential term. No American President can afford not to make side trips in Asia
No African nation is a member of the G-20, and no summits have ever been scheduled. Although FDR and Jimmy Carter made brief Presidential stops in Africa, Clinton, GW Bush and B Obama have made goodwill trips there.

Trump seems to feel that trips to Canada and Mexico are unwarranted, and would prefer meeting in White House.