The End of Sex and the Future of Human Reproduction
March 30th, 2016 at 2:18:00 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674728967
#12 Looks just like you I posted this article under 'religion' because I think we could have the makings of a religious war if this author is correct. |
March 30th, 2016 at 2:53:00 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18209 |
I saw this story. Dangerous stuff. Forgetting the moral argument, what my fear is about is that as we make designer babies we lose the benefits of random babies. People will be saying they want a kid with more of this and less of that. They want a daughter that looks like the Kardashians. They want a son with a predisposition for computer skills. Whatever. Then society gets out of balance. Brave New World! The President is a fink. |
March 30th, 2016 at 7:53:38 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Fat chance :) After decades, IVF remains an expensive and difficult proposition. I've some second-hand knowledge of this. That's why it's confined mostly to women or couples who cannot conceive by other means (and this includes the use of surrogate mothers). I don't think it's widespread even in cases where the parents have high risk for passing on a genetic condition to their children. It could become cheaper and more reliable, but it will always be more difficult and more expensive than the natural alternatives, including artificial insemination. Screening for genetics probably won't be a compelling argument for it. And as far as I know, #12 was conceived "naturally." Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
March 30th, 2016 at 12:47:31 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
This is indeed very scary stuff. As we move more and more to separate sexual activity from procreation and make it more and more simply recreation we find ourselves more and more confused about not only the nature and purpose of sex, but who we are as human beings. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
March 30th, 2016 at 2:25:17 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It's not confusing at all, except to the Church, apparently. Men and women have been pleasuring themselves since they started walking on two legs, it's hardly new. It's completely natural and not confusing in the least. Unless you try and make it confusing, like the Church does. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 30th, 2016 at 2:34:33 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Right. This radical, evil idea of using sex as an expression of romantic love makes women think "Why not pump myself full of fertility drugs and hormones, undergo surgery to harvest ova, and plunk down thousands for a rather small chance at conception?" You just have to be crazy not to do it, right? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
March 30th, 2016 at 2:46:47 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Isn't the Catholic church, in approving a method to avoid pregnancy, so that married couples can have sex with a reduced chance of getting pregnant, separating sexual activity from procreation? Isn't it also begging the question to suggest that people are deviating from what the church has declared as the purpose of sex? It is assuming that the catholic church is correct and anyone who disagrees is wrong. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
March 30th, 2016 at 3:09:37 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18209 |
+1. The President is a fink. |
March 30th, 2016 at 3:14:04 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Not when you doublethink correctly.
Is there any doubt that's their central operational assumption? Big religions tend to become totalitarian. It's the smaller religions which can, indeed must, preach tolerance. For them it's a matter of survival. We're fortunate to be living at a time when the larger culture favors tolerance overall. And we're even more fortunate to live at a time and a place when the separation of church and state is strong. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
March 30th, 2016 at 6:59:02 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Not at all. They are using our natural and healthy cycles to attempt to postpone pregnancy for good reasons. They are also recognizing that the two goods of sex, the union of couples and procreation, are always intimately connected. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |