Should Women be punished for abortion

Quote: Wizard

What if the father opposed the abortion and the mother did it anyway?

I can't answer that, because I don't think anyone should be punished under the law. It's punishment enough to be in a position where that's your best option.

Quote: Wizard

What if the father opposed the abortion and the mother did it anyway?

When the father has to carry a fetus for nine months and expose himself to the risks inherent in pregnancy, then he can decide not to have an abortion.

Come on, if it were men who got pregnant, abortion would be sacrosanct.

I am pro abortion. I think that should be the default until the parents can prove that they can be good responsible parents.

I don't think anybody understands my point here. Let me rephrase it. For the sake of argument, if we assume that abortion is murder, then shouldn't those complicit in it be held liable for murder?

Quote: FrGamble

The other thing to remember is that nobody wants to go through the pain, physical and emotional, of having an abortion. These poor women do not have to punished legally at all. They need to be loved and forgiven.

What about the emotional and physical pain of having a baby? Especially if young and poor? NOT good for either mom or the kid.

Quote: Wizard

I don't think anybody understands my point here. Let me rephrase it. For the sake of argument, if we assume that abortion is murder, then shouldn't those complicit in it be held liable for murder?

I genuinely don't see it as murder, so I can't see myself judging anyone making that decision. It's simply not up to me whether someone accepts the burden of aborting a child, or the responsibility of raising one. I don't accept the premise of it being a legal question, simply a moral and personal one. No one should make that decision for anyone else.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I genuinely don't see it as murder,

That's fine but doesn't address my hypothetical question. I think I've failed miserably here in not making the "if" in my sentence clear. Carry on without me.

Quote: Wizard

That's fine but doesn't address my hypothetical question. I think I've failed miserably here in not making the "if" in my sentence clear. Carry on without me.

Well, people like Eric Rudolf, completely agree with your point. I think he proved that he was sincere.

Quote: rxwine

Well, people like Eric Rudolf, completely agree with your point. I think he proved that he was sincere.

I at least give him credit for being consistent.

Quote: Wizard

That's fine but doesn't address my hypothetical question. I think I've failed miserably here in not making the "if" in my sentence clear. Carry on without me.

To me, there should not be a legal question at all. This should never have been legislated. The best possible outcome once it was, was Roe v. Wade, which took it out of the legal arena altogether and returned the decision to the family and the doctor.

Edit: I don't think you've failed at all in asking your hypothetical. It's a legitimate question in the current environment. But it also assumes anyone has a right to judge someone else's decision in this area, ever, for any reason. And I believe that to be a flawed assumption, not by you, but by American legislatures.