Should Women be punished for abortion
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March 31st, 2016 at 5:23:07 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | Legal abortion is what you get in a selfish society. It's one choice too many. It's usually an unmarried woman who decides to have sex outside of marriage. Then she decides to have unprotected sex. The she decides to have it more than once, the vast majority of women do not get pregnant on just a few sexual encounters. And finally, she decides whether to have an abortion or not. Too many choices. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 31st, 2016 at 6:13:31 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | It sounds like you are advocating for the position of the Catholic church, to practice abstinence until you are married. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
March 31st, 2016 at 6:38:37 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
No, I'm saying if you're going to screw around use protection. I know women who've had abortions and it bothers them decades later. It would bother me if I was the father of an aborted child. I was a real fetus at one time, I was a real person in there. A darn fine looking one, as well.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 31st, 2016 at 7:52:36 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Heh, that reminds me. You would think someone who sees abortions as evil would be enthusiastic for condom use as a practical measure to reduce that evil instead of the importance of following a screwy doctrine, that seems to allow them (maybe) only in prevention of serious disease (if even that). I ain't mentioning any names, but he works for the Pope. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
March 31st, 2016 at 9:52:41 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
They don't like contraception because you make more new Catholics by forcing them to have as many kids as possible. And it's working, the religion is growing by leaps and bounds in Central and S America. The problem is, these are poor countries that tend to be a drain on the Church and not a boon. The places where they need grow, the rich EU countries, are becoming more and more secular and want nothing to do with the Church. For centuries they have made the Vatican wealthy beyond measure. Those days are long gone. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 31st, 2016 at 10:05:23 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
You should read more of the arguments of how we ended up in this position. Do you know how much of the law has been muddled by people with their own agenda in all camps? For instance, when pro-lifers argue they are sponsoring legislation to protect the mother's health, when they are really are making another end run at stopping abortion the law gets increasingly muddled. Also, even if you can't get a doctor prosecuted for doing legal abortions, you can still get sympathy with a woman intentionally hurt. A jury might be more inclined to act on those penalties say, in an assault case of intentional injury not realizing the implications in other situations. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
March 31st, 2016 at 10:56:34 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
rx...maybe I'm too tired tonight to parse this out, but even though it's likely I agree with you, what the heck are you saying? :) Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
March 31st, 2016 at 11:08:44 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Hah ha. I'm also tired. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
March 31st, 2016 at 11:30:31 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 | Here's a thought experiment. I bought a brand new mail box for out front by the road. Tomorrow, I'm going to dig up the cement base and pole of the old one and put the new one in. However, my neighbor veered off the road this evening and took out my old mail box in the process and even unearthed the base. My job is already half done. So, in one case, if I had not been planning on replacing it, he would have caused harm. However, since I was replacing it he did not cause harm, in fact he helped me do half the job. So, anyway, the mailbox is the same object -- but the circumstances can change whether an action is permissible or one can seek damages. It's not so clear cut that the same actions affect a party the same way. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
March 31st, 2016 at 11:37:00 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 | I guess that last thing was an example of something that can both be claimed as a harm in one case, and a benefit it the other, yet the action was the same. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |