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Which projection do you prefer?
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6 members have voted
| May 10th, 2016 at 6:20:53 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
For very long distances the flat rectangular map can be very deceptive When the POTUS went to Nelson Mandela's funeral he left from Andrew's AFB (ADW) and stopped in Dakar (DKR) to refuel . It must be a logistics nightmare to stop AF1 just to refuel. Normally, I think they try and schedule the plane so that he doesn't need to stop just to refuel, but as this trip was unplanned it wasn't possible to set up an intermediate visit. The Secretary of State only has a B757 so he/she must stop to refuel frequently.  Ghanian President urged United in 2011 to put in a nonstop between Houston and Ghana as the Ghanian oil industry was booming. When United received one of the Dreamliners they did comply, so there is another recent example of a nonstop to SS Africa (6,339 miles). |
| May 10th, 2016 at 7:31:24 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I wonder what the cost to taxpayers was for that trip. Not to mention the carbon footprint. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
| May 11th, 2016 at 12:45:47 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
When President Clinton went to Africa in 1998 the estimate was in addition to Air Force One, there were five passenger planes flown for 251.4 hours at an average of $10K per hour. The five other passenger planes carrying 1302 people. In addition there was a whopping 3257.5 hours of air time of Strategic lift aircraft and Aerial refueling aircraft. MASH units were set up to have hospitals available so no one would have to be treated in a local hospital. The visit taxed all military operations in Africa at the time. Personnel Department of Defense 904 Executive Office of the President 205 U.S. Information Agency 103 Department of State 60 Department of Transportation 9 Agency for International Development 6 Department of Labor 6 Department of Agriculture 3 Department of Commerce 3 Customs Service 1 Immigration and Naturalization Service 1 Department of the Treasury 1 Total 1,302 Ghana, Uganada, Rwanda, South Africa, Botswana, and Senegal had never seen anything like it. |
| May 11th, 2016 at 1:19:39 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | How about this rectangular map split along the Ural mountains in russia? It shows the five longest air flights in the world including the two upcoming ones this year (SFO-SIN in June, and DOH-AKL in Dec)
Then stick with the polar projection to show the next five longest routes
The FAA defines a polar route as anything that heads north of 012° (N), so strictly speaking only 3 of these routes are "polar". But 4 of 5 of them go above the Arctic Circle. |
| May 11th, 2016 at 2:38:27 AM permalink | |
| Aussie Member since: May 10, 2016 Threads: 2 Posts: 458 | These routes will all be put in the shade when SQ resume SIN-EWR non-stop in a couple of years time. The configuration will be interesting. Will they be able to run it profitably with an economy class or will it be all business class as it was previously? |
| May 11th, 2016 at 6:43:49 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Overall the polar projections make the routes appear more sensible. Many times an equatorial projection makes it look as though airlines prefer the scenic routes, when logic dictates the shortest route every time. What both do is give a more accurate impression of how vast the Pacific is. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| May 11th, 2016 at 7:40:14 AM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | How about a Vignelli 'abstract simplicity' map... similar to the subway maps that show inaccurate physical locations but stylized relationships between locations. This would allow a representation of the world in more or less familiar locations of the continents and countries but would allow 'shrinking' of the oceans so that the important parts (take offs and landings) are shown but the lesser important, miles and miles of endless ocean are, although plainly shown, not given prominence simply due to their size. This would allow countries and cities to be in large type and oceans to be depicted more as large ponds. |
| May 11th, 2016 at 8:30:23 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The two new routes look better on the polar map
If nonstops to India and bringing Mexico and Panama City into the Emirates fold happens, we could get an explosion of ultra long distance routes |
| May 11th, 2016 at 8:00:01 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight#Longest_flights I added the images into Wikipedia article, sticking with rectangular for the longest (as per your preference) and avoiding any bizarre projections . Let's see how long they stay. |
| May 13th, 2016 at 3:20:10 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The projections stayed about 5 hours on wikipedia. Somebody took them down because hey don't like polar projections. I still think that polar is the easiest way to view flights from one northern hemisphere city to another. There are 30 routes on the list with 5 being flown by different airlines. Out of the remaining 25 unique routes, 20 are from one northern hemisphere city to another.
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