Two Gods or One
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May 28th, 2016 at 12:38:11 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | This is very confusing to atheists. Is there two gods, one for Christians and one for Muslims. Or is it the same god they both get their marching orders from. Pope Paul II said this in a speech to Muslims in 1985: “We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection” Even Pope Francis has said it's the same god. Yet the flagship of evangelical schools, Wheaton College, has stated emphatically that 'Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God.' Last winter they punished a professor for claiming Islam has the same god as Christianity. This is just more evidence for atheists that there is no god at all. Both Catholics and Protestants claim god speaks to them personally every day. Our own resident priest, FrG, has claimed this many times. Yet this god can't even keep his story straight among his own followers. He's apparently telling popes he's the god of Islam, and telling Billy Graham he's not. To an atheist, it's just self deluded people talking to themselves. Again.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 28th, 2016 at 1:08:06 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18629 |
It's a good point. Before coming down on us atheists, those leaders for god should be getting more consistent messages FrGamble should thoroughly research Billy Graham, and ask himself why god would tell the Pope different things. Graham has been no slouch as far as faith.
http://billygraham.org/about/biographies/billy-graham/ You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 28th, 2016 at 1:18:51 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
If there was a god, you'd think the most important thing on his agenda would be to remain consistent. This god of Moses and Mohammad is anything but consistent. It's why atheists have no problem taking the position we do. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 28th, 2016 at 1:26:41 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | It appears that xtianity and islam are franchises of judaism. Churches are "business models" of a tax exempt racket. Jesus seen the money flow from the OT and wanted to branch out. Follow the money. I just read a story about the Cherokee indians hiding their children when the baptists came around, so the xtians didn't steal their children. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
May 28th, 2016 at 1:28:23 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | But he has infinite opinions, no sense in repeating a single thought. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
May 28th, 2016 at 1:59:09 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | http://myfirstclasslife.com/wc/5382873036/?utm_campaign=32111102946&utm_medium=gemini&utm_source=gem-32111102946_n_j2032&jtag=457b89718e60db0ed43aec94eff825f6 The fifty wealthiest pastors The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
May 28th, 2016 at 2:18:49 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Half of them are black, even half the top 10 are black. Christianity is big business, the Vatican has hundreds of billions in accumulated wealth. Is this what the reformed preacher taught? I don't think so. But he had no idea a religion was going to be started in his name and he would be called a god. He would have been appalled. If the same god is running Islam, where is all their wealth. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 28th, 2016 at 6:54:14 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | You've heard the answer before. There is only one god, but only the catholics have properly interpreted his nature and what he wants. Everyone else just exists in states of misunderstanding of varying levels of severity. How do we know? Because they told themselves so. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
May 28th, 2016 at 7:23:47 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
True, in fact Evenbob is often the one to give us the answer. Us poor believers just believe what we are told, humanity is very gullible he is often telling me. Why he doesn't turn that thought and apply it to this question as to why there are so many religions is puzzling.
It is helpful to remember that Christianity is indeed an offshoot of Judaism. Christianity claims to be its fulfillment in fact, the awaited Messiah who fulfills the prophecies of old has come in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, Messiah, or Anointed One. In regards to Catholics you have to remember that it wasn't until the 16th century that another Christian denomination or official Church existed. As Nareed points out there were heresies and some popular ones but the Bishop of Rome and successor of St. Peter who was charged by Christ Himself to lead the Church has held to the true faith as testified to in the Scriptures.
Correct. Except of course for the small minority of atheists they are completely wrong.
The Bible, Tradition, and the ever ancient, ever new teaching of the Church. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 28th, 2016 at 7:46:08 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
We're at war with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Eurasia. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |