Trump vs Hillary 2016

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July 3rd, 2017 at 5:56:13 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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There have been 5 Elections where winner lost popular vote
1824: John Quincy Adams.
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes.
1888: Benjamin Harrison.
2000: George W. Bush.
2016: Donald Trump.

The 1824 and 1876 elections were settled by blatant political means. The 1888 election was still before secret ballots, and a blatant vote selling scheme was uncovered in Indiana that gave Benjamin Harris the state. Indiana did not have enough electoral college votes to determine the election, but a similar scheme was suspected in New York City. NY state did have enough electoral college votes to determine the outcome.

The 1888 and 1892 elections had the same two candidates running. Grover Cleveland won in 1884 and 1892. Benjamin Harrison won in 1888.

The results in three critical states are below. Harrison won all three states in 1888 and Cleveland won all three in 1892. They had more than enough EC votes to determine outcome.
Candidate	NY			IN			IL		
1888 1892 1888 1892 1888 1892
G. Cleveland 635,965 654,868 261,013 262,740 348,351 426,281
B. Harrison- 650,338 609,350 263,361 255,615 370,475 399,288


In contrast most people accept the results of 2000 and 2016 as a simple statement about demographics of party support in the 21st century.
July 3rd, 2017 at 11:06:50 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
There have been 5 Elections where winner lost popular vote
1824: John Quincy Adams.
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes.
1888: Benjamin Harrison.
2000: George W. Bush.
2016: Donald Trump..


Bush and trump are the only ones who
lost it because of illegal votes. Thank
god for the EC.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 7th, 2017 at 1:15:52 PM permalink
Evenbob
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You know what's great about Trump when he
travels abroad? He absolutely believes, down
to his toenails, that America is the greatest
country on earth. Unlike Barry, he doesn't have
a kowtowing apologetic bone in his body and
it comes across to everybody he meets with.

What a refreshing change from 8 years of bowing
and scraping and begging for forgiveness from
that phony fraudulent Obama. What a total downer
he was.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 7th, 2017 at 1:42:19 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Evenbob
You know what's great about Trump when he
travels abroad?


We don't have to see his ugly mug on the news as much. It's lovely.
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November 7th, 2017 at 7:07:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Dowís Rally from Trumpís Election Breaks Postwar Records

"As America approaches the one-year anniversary of the election of Donald Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is on target to book its best annual performance under a first-term president when measured from Election Day.
The Dow is up by around 29 percent since Trumpís November 8 election victory over Hillary Clinton. Thatís the best post-election, one-year performance for a first-term president since Franklin Rooseveltís in 1932."

Just a fluke, the Dems say. lololol The best
of any president in 85 years. I bet Trump
is proud as punch, as they used to say..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 7th, 2017 at 7:19:13 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Could there be a better time, with the economy so strong, to pass a balanced budget?

Deficit spending is one of the things you do to help a struggling economy, as is cutting taxes, along with the central banking actions.

When times are good, like now, we should take advantage and focus on fiscal responsibility.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
November 7th, 2017 at 8:03:18 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
Could there be a better time, with the economy so strong, to pass a balanced budget?
.


Not possible, never gonna happen. We're too
far down the rabbit hole. Maybe we could
stabilize the debt, but never balance it.
They say the last time it was truly done was
in the Andrew Jackson administration. Ever
since then it's just been to large to ever
really balance it.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 7th, 2017 at 8:56:46 PM permalink
JimRockford
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Quote: Evenbob
Not possible, never gonna happen. We're too
far down the rabbit hole. Maybe we could
stabilize the debt, but never balance it.
They say the last time it was truly done was
in the Andrew Jackson administration. Ever
since then it's just been to large to ever
really balance it.

The federal budget was in surplus in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. Clinton was president, Republicans had both houses. You decide how to distribute the credit.
November 7th, 2017 at 9:22:24 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: JimRockford
The federal budget was in surplus in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. .


It was a bookkeeping trick, the budget
has never been truly balanced for eons.
You can make anything look like you want
on paper, reality is a different matter.
It was all 'if this and this and this is done
that and that and this way, till the year
blah and blah blah, the budget is balanced'.

Deviate from any of it, which of course
they did, the whole fiasco comes crashing
down. Which, of course, was inevitable.
Creative bookkeeping, they teach it in
CPA school.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 7th, 2017 at 11:22:24 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
Creative bookkeeping, they teach it in
CPA school.
Clinton introduced hedonics to the cpi for calculating cola's for social security. http://www.shadowstats.com/article/consumer_price_index

"changes made in CPI methodology during the Clinton Administration understated inflation significantly, and, through a cumulative effect with earlier changes that began in the late-Carter and early Reagan Administrations have reduced current social security payments by roughly half"

"That means Social Security checks today would be about double had the various changes not been made."
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