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Trump vs Hillary 2016
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| July 3rd, 2017 at 5:56:13 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | There have been 5 Elections where winner lost popular vote 1824: John Quincy Adams. 1876: Rutherford B. Hayes. 1888: Benjamin Harrison. 2000: George W. Bush. 2016: Donald Trump. The 1824 and 1876 elections were settled by blatant political means. The 1888 election was still before secret ballots, and a blatant vote selling scheme was uncovered in Indiana that gave Benjamin Harris the state. Indiana did not have enough electoral college votes to determine the election, but a similar scheme was suspected in New York City. NY state did have enough electoral college votes to determine the outcome. The 1888 and 1892 elections had the same two candidates running. Grover Cleveland won in 1884 and 1892. Benjamin Harrison won in 1888. The results in three critical states are below. Harrison won all three states in 1888 and Cleveland won all three in 1892. They had more than enough EC votes to determine outcome. Candidate NY IN IL In contrast most people accept the results of 2000 and 2016 as a simple statement about demographics of party support in the 21st century. |
| July 3rd, 2017 at 11:06:50 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Bush and trump are the only ones who lost it because of illegal votes. Thank god for the EC. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 1:15:52 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | You know what's great about Trump when he travels abroad? He absolutely believes, down to his toenails, that America is the greatest country on earth. Unlike Barry, he doesn't have a kowtowing apologetic bone in his body and it comes across to everybody he meets with. What a refreshing change from 8 years of bowing and scraping and begging for forgiveness from that phony fraudulent Obama. What a total downer he was. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 1:42:19 PM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12506 |
We don't have to see his ugly mug on the news as much. It's lovely. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| November 7th, 2017 at 7:07:27 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Dow’s Rally from Trump’s Election Breaks Postwar Records "As America approaches the one-year anniversary of the election of Donald Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is on target to book its best annual performance under a first-term president when measured from Election Day. The Dow is up by around 29 percent since Trump’s November 8 election victory over Hillary Clinton. That’s the best post-election, one-year performance for a first-term president since Franklin Roosevelt’s in 1932." Just a fluke, the Dems say. lololol The best of any president in 85 years. I bet Trump is proud as punch, as they used to say.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 7:19:13 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Could there be a better time, with the economy so strong, to pass a balanced budget? Deficit spending is one of the things you do to help a struggling economy, as is cutting taxes, along with the central banking actions. When times are good, like now, we should take advantage and focus on fiscal responsibility. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| November 7th, 2017 at 8:03:18 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not possible, never gonna happen. We're too far down the rabbit hole. Maybe we could stabilize the debt, but never balance it. They say the last time it was truly done was in the Andrew Jackson administration. Ever since then it's just been to large to ever really balance it. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 8:56:46 PM permalink | |
| JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 |
The federal budget was in surplus in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. Clinton was president, Republicans had both houses. You decide how to distribute the credit. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 9:22:24 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It was a bookkeeping trick, the budget has never been truly balanced for eons. You can make anything look like you want on paper, reality is a different matter. It was all 'if this and this and this is done that and that and this way, till the year blah and blah blah, the budget is balanced'. Deviate from any of it, which of course they did, the whole fiasco comes crashing down. Which, of course, was inevitable. Creative bookkeeping, they teach it in CPA school. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 7th, 2017 at 11:22:24 PM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Clinton introduced hedonics to the cpi for calculating cola's for social security. http://www.shadowstats.com/article/consumer_price_index "changes made in CPI methodology during the Clinton Administration understated inflation significantly, and, through a cumulative effect with earlier changes that began in the late-Carter and early Reagan Administrations have reduced current social security payments by roughly half" "That means Social Security checks today would be about double had the various changes not been made." The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |