Chinese films in America

June 14th, 2016 at 12:26:49 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Kung Fu Panda #3 is the latest film to make more money in China ($154 million) than in Northern America ($143 million) along with Rest of World ($220 million).

But it seems to be a one way street. The biggest fantasy family film in Chinese movie history dropped like a lead anvil in Northern America.


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June 14th, 2016 at 1:09:30 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin


But it seems to be a one way street.


The acting in the clip is awful. Most
of the actors look lost and confused,
an expression we see a lot in Oriental
movies. Remember how Chinamen
were always referred to as 'inscrutable'?
That expression does not transfer well
to the screen. So when they try to show
emotion, it always looks forced and fake.

Ever watch Oriental porn? The women
are hilarious, their fake orgasms are
pure melodrama. They have no idea
how to express real emotions.
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June 14th, 2016 at 1:24:15 AM permalink
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Monster Hunt is the biggest film in Chinese history. Spirited Away is the biggest film in Japanese History. But they have virtually no worldwide appeal. Monsters University, a rather bland sequel, can make several times as much money.
June 14th, 2016 at 11:25:29 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Their monsters are gross and unappealing.
The acting in their movies reminds me of
our movies in the silent era. They overdo
the facial expressions to the point of being
ludicrous. Jackie Chan is a good actor now,
but his real early movies are unwatchable.
Too many funny faces and exaggerated
expressions.
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June 14th, 2016 at 11:40:00 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Part of it could be that the Chinese film going audience is larger that the USA's. "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" won Academy Awards in the USA, but was considered run of the mill in China, where that style of historic/fantasy/martial arts film has its own genre.

Many creatures in animated films from Asia are steeped in regional cultural mythology. Imagine trying to communicate a story about Bigfoot or La Chupacabra to someone raised in Japan. Much is lost in translation.

Some exports from Asia do well. Godzilla, The Grudge, Pokemon and Hello Kitty come to mind.
June 14th, 2016 at 11:46:00 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Some exports from Asia do well.


I think the point is, so many of our films
are blockbusters in the East, almost none
of theirs are hits here.
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June 14th, 2016 at 12:25:56 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Evenbob
I think the point is, so many of our films
are blockbusters in the East, almost none
of theirs are hits here.


The American film production industry is still, far and away, the first class in the entire world. The biggest budgets and most advanced special effects technology go into our films. It is no wonder they are hits in other countries.

However, distribution is where the money is made in the box office. Unfortunately, American films dominate American distribution in a shrinking market. Overseas theaters only screen big budget films that will appeal to their local populations, so it is natural that they tend to do well (and will continue to better than the declining American market). Many American films now include Chinese characters or locations in an attempt to sway the censors who select the limited number of American films that are allowed into the controlled market each year.
June 14th, 2016 at 12:56:56 PM permalink
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I recently read an article about a Chinese businessman who wanted to do a big budget film, in English, with an "international" cast, expressly to compete with Hollywood movies.

It all sounds good. Then you read about the screenplay, the crew, the half-assed way many things get done, etc. and you cease wondering why the project turned into a money pit which has yet to produce a finished movie.

I think I have the link on Pocket still. It felt like reading a slow motion train wreck.
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June 14th, 2016 at 5:08:16 PM permalink
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Quote: Ayecarumba
Many American films now include Chinese characters or locations in an attempt to sway the censors who select the limited number of American films that are allowed into the controlled market each year.


Quote: Pacomartin
The last three big budget Bruce Willis movies have all had their biggest foreign box office in China
3/28/13 G.I. Joe: Retaliation (67% foreign)
2/14/13 A Good Day to Die Hard (78% foreign)
9/28/12 Looper (62% foreign)

Bruce Willis's beautiful wife in Looper was a Chinese woman, along with the utopian vision of China's future compared to a gangster ridden America



China last year surpassed Japan as the world's No. 2 market behind the U.S. with box office revenues of $2.7 billion.

But if you look at top 21 in films in Japan, the market is 70% Japanese films, and only 30% western films.

Umizaru 4
Terumae romae
Odoru Daisôsasen the Final: Aratanaru kibô
One Piece Film Z (anime)
Les Miserables
Evangelion Shin Gekijôban: Kyu
Okami kodomo no ame to yuki
Resident Evil: Retribution
The Avengers

Eiga Doraemon: Nobita to kiseki no shima - Animaru adobenchâ
Gekijouban Pokketo monsutâ Besuto wisshu 2012
Detective Conan: The Eleventh Striker
One Piece Film Zchôme no yûhi '64
The Amazing Spider-Man
MIB 3

Rurôni Kenshin: Meiji kenkaku roman tan
Skyfall
Nobô no shiro (The Floating Castle)
Spec Ten
Bokura ga ita (We Were Here Part 1)
Dark Shadows

Given the language and culture similarities, the UK has traditionally been the biggest foreign market for films.

But with 10 theaters a day opening in China, probably within 5 years an American movie will sell more tickets in China than in the USA.