The "problem" of evil

July 10th, 2016 at 10:38:28 AM permalink
pew
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Quote: rxwine
Women.

You put public health facilities in the densest population areas if you can because it makes the most sense. But in the case of PP centers you can only put them where anti-abortion people haven't managed to get them prohibited.

You also don't put them in rich neighborhoods because those people can drive elsewhere to get abortions. Or they can afford private services.
Minority women. The logical choice. There are many reasons why and they are all based on subjective morals. Planned parenthood is not the issue here though. The issue is morals. They can't use the word eugenics anymore, the results remain the same however.
July 10th, 2016 at 10:44:12 AM permalink
FrGamble
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PP was founded by a racist woman who would gladly say she was following good morals.
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July 10th, 2016 at 10:55:57 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
No one should defend moral relativism or moral subjectivism, period.


Not even the Catholic Church while it engages in it? Or should it just be brushed aside and declared "non-Christian" behavior by the top Christian organization in the West?
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July 10th, 2016 at 11:19:07 AM permalink
FrGamble
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It would definitely be non-Christian behavior wouldn't it?
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July 10th, 2016 at 11:27:54 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
It would definitely be non-Christian behavior wouldn't it?


Not judging by the numbers of Christians who engage in it, including too many of the "infallible" kind.
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July 10th, 2016 at 11:52:21 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
The church and the state were full partners in heresy law and enforcement.


Absolutely.

Quote:
The church instructed the state to create these laws. Is there any instance of the church condemning these laws?


When you read the huge list of Catholic
heresies and how silly some of them are,
you realize that the Church sought to
control every thought a member of the
Church had. My ex priest friend mentions
it often, that he was a member if the 'thought
police' when he was a Catholic priest. I
think it's one of the major problems he
had with the job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_heresies
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July 10th, 2016 at 12:33:07 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: FrGamble
PP was founded by a racist woman who would gladly say she was following good morals.


America was founded both by taking land and built up by slavery. But there were some good things.

And the Catholic Church still practices bigotry and discrimination to this day because of some of its practices.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
July 10th, 2016 at 12:37:02 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: pew
The point is the logical and pragmatic basis for a Godless morality is trumped by a morality that comes from somewhere else. Where does it come from?


You answer the last question. Which religion do you believe should have say over everything in declaring moral authority. And all other religions and the rest of us godless heathens should subscribe to it?
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
July 10th, 2016 at 1:18:51 PM permalink
pew
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Quote: rxwine
You answer the last question. Which religion do you believe should have say over everything in declaring moral authority. And all other religions and the rest of us godless heathens should subscribe to it?
It comes from an inner witness and has nothing to do with religion per se. It comes before religion or non religion or atheism. It is above and beyond pragmatism and logic which is why it's a problem for some people.
July 11th, 2016 at 7:13:29 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
PP was founded by a racist woman who would gladly say she was following good morals.


America was founded by slave owners who thought they were following good morals.

Rome was founded by a fratricidal egomaniac who drew preferentially outlaws to his community, he then expanded his city by kidnapping Sabine women.

The republican party was founded, in part, by a soft bigot who wanted to send all "coloreds" back to Africa.

Do I go on?
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