The Bible God or Kali
July 6th, 2016 at 1:34:18 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | Here's a good way to explain atheism to those who say they don't understand it. Millions of people worship the deity Kali, the Hindu goddess. When a Christian tells you they don't understand atheism, ask them why they don't recognize Kali as a deity and worship her. Whatever reasons they give, you can now say that they understand why you don't believe in their god. It's easy for them to come up with 10 reasons not to believe Kali is a deity, just as I can come up 10 with reasons their god isn't one either. They won't like this, but at least it might make them think for the first time in their lives. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 6th, 2016 at 4:28:09 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Why would someone have a hard time understanding atheism? It means you think there is no God. Believing in many gods, a different God, or the one true God is still the opposite of atheism. I don't see where your argument is effective. What if they say it is because of their personal experiences of the reality of God? However, your biggest problem would be if a believer would ask you why you don't believe in any God? A lack of evidence wouldn't lead to any sane person saying there is absolutely no God, so that means you must have some evidence of God's non existence, which of course you do not. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
July 6th, 2016 at 5:30:07 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
It's effective because Kali worshipers don't believe in your god, just like you don't believe Kali is a deity. You both think you have some kind of proof, but to an atheist you have none. The point is, it's easy for you to dismiss Kali, why can't it be just as easy for me to dismiss your god. Your beliefs and Kali worshipers beliefs and Ra followers beliefs don't mean squat to me. Just as Kali and Ra don't mean squat to you. It's easy for you to understand why you dismiss Kali and Ra, it should also be easy for you to understand why atheists dismiss your god. To an atheist, one god is just the same as another, we don't discriminate. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 6th, 2016 at 6:24:49 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | I think you underestimate how hard it is to reject the idea of some foreign God when there is logical reasons to believe in a god and when there are followers who believe deeply in something. The reason why it is easy for anyone to reject atheism is that there is no logical, no reason, and no evidence to even consider it. As you like to say it is nothing and has nothing to it. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
July 6th, 2016 at 6:35:29 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Less than nothing, actually. Atheists have very little in common with other atheists. Which is as it should be. It's none of my business. You can't reject atheism, there is nothing to reject. Nothing.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 7th, 2016 at 9:21:29 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Do you believe in any gods outside those in the Christian pantheon? If not, what proof do you have for thinking they're not real? Do you have proof for every one of the thousands of other gods? BTW, I found incontrovertible evidence that no gods at all can exist. I won't show it to you, but can you prove I don't have it? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
July 7th, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | It is logically impossible for you to have any proof or evidence that there is no God. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
July 7th, 2016 at 11:24:41 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
It isn't. And that doesn't prove I don't have it. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
July 7th, 2016 at 12:18:47 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Just like it's impossible for you to have evidence Kali isn't a deity. Are you starting to see that you are an atheist for every god except the one you chose? I just took it one step further and am an atheist for all gods. And please don't insult me that yours is the one 'true' god, everybody says that about their deity. It's meaningless. That's like people saying their city is the 'best' in the world. A meaningless statement. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 7th, 2016 at 8:25:24 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | You don't seem to grasp that the difference between believing in one less God and believing in no God is a gulf wider than the universe. It is no small thing to go from a logically necessary truth like the existence of God which has evidence to an illogical false idea with no evidence like atheism. If you want me to go there with you then you must have another bridge to sell me like Nareed. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |