Jesus & Confirmation Bias
August 12th, 2016 at 9:46:48 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | This is a huge subject and deserves it's own thread. Confirmation bias is when you have a certain belief or opinion and are constantly looking for verification of it, while ignoring information that may go against your belief or opinion. We all do it, we can't help it, and we do it with everything. When I bought a new truck long ago, for years I only looked for things that made me feel good that I had made the right choice in buying a Ford. I convince myself I have a perfect dog by ignoring the things he does that irritate me, and playing up the things I like. No other group on the planet has perfected confirmation bias like Christians have. They constantly look for things that confirm their faith and ignore the things that don't. I have been seeing it in my wife's family for decades. They thank Jesus for every parking space they find close to the building. For every sunset, for the raise they got, for their kids getting an A, Jesus made it happen for all the things in their life that went the right way. If something goes awry, they just ignore it, don't think about it. Drives me nuts, it's maddening. It's what FrG does, his whole life is confirmation bias. He see's Jesus in everything because he wants to see him in everything. He artfully weaves the narrative away from anything in history that might throw cold water on his bias. It's an art form, a learned lifelong process. There is no real evidence for god, but confirmation bias has Christians seeing it everywhere. They see what they want to see. This was written by a former Christian who finally realized that the Jesus story was just a myth: "The reason it is so hard to convince people that things like the resurrection are unlikely is that Christians are encouraged to find evidence that confirms what they hope to be true, and reject evidence that does not — for Christians who have the most faith and are often the most revered; opposing evidence simply does not register. So that, over time, it seems to them that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of the resurrection of Christ, and little against it — to them, the evidence against it, due to the strong institutionalized encouragement of confirmation bias, hardly exists, because it doesn’t confirm what they are hoping for or assure them of a desired sense of reality." This is the wall you run into with devout believers, the 'institutionalized encouragement of confirmation bias'. In fact, FrG uses the phrase "overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of the resurrection of Christ" all the time here. To him it's the truth, he can't see anything else because he doesn't want to. It doesn't fit the template he's chosen to base his life around. Now a Christian will say atheists are guilty of the same thing, we constantly ignore all the evidence that god is real. But when asked to present the evidence, they don't have any. Their evidence consists mostly of circular logic and reliance on the fact that because there are so many Christians, how can they all be wrong. I've seen Christian confirmation bias at work up close, it's a truly frightening thing. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 13th, 2016 at 12:07:26 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 13th, 2016 at 12:20:03 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Confirmation bias goes as far back as Francis Bacon. "It is the peculiar and perpetual error of the human understanding to be more moved and excited by affirmatives than by negatives." --Francis Bacon Atheists have an advantage here. We have no belief in god because there is no evidence of one. We can't really indulge in confirmation bias by ignoring evidence, because there isn't any to ignore. Christianity has no such advantage. I remember the Christian group I was part of 40 years ago. They were constantly looking for even the smallest things to bolster their belief in Jesus. If you look, you will always think you've found something. They took every light they came to that was green as a sign Jesus did that for them. A lane in the store would open as they approached, a parking place on the street would appear out of nowhere, their car would break down in their driveway and not the freeway. These and and hundreds of other 'signs' meant Jesus was looking out for them. Of course they ignored all the things that didn't go their way, paid no attention to them. It's a nutty way to live, there is something desperate about it, always having to confirm your faith like that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 14th, 2016 at 7:31:57 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I was in the store today and there were 3 bags of catfood left of the kind I buy. One of them had a $2 off coupon on it, the others did not. My sister law in would have said 'thank you Jesus, praise god' right out loud. Jesus had saved kept that bag from being sold so she could get it. Perfect example of confirmation bias. If there had been no coupon, she would never think 'drat you, Jesus'. Take the smallest things that go in your favor and confirm them as being part of your Jesus infused life. I'm an atheist, I didn't thank anything except random chance, which of course is what's responsible. The religion encourages confirmation bias. My wife's church has a FB page entirely devoted to the 'blessings' Jesus bestows on you every day. Like you're late for work and happen to catch every light green. And somebody pulls out of the closest spot to the door just as you pull up. Jesus did all that and it just confirms to your fellow FB cult followers that Jesus is on the job. I call it 'living the lie'.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |