is Trump trying to lose?

September 30th, 2016 at 5:25:51 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: reno
You're probably right, and the big clue is the time of day of his Twitter rant. Thursday night at 10:16pm. Then Friday morning at 3:10am, then 5:14am, then 5:19am, then 5:30am. He didn't get much sleep.

It's 39 days before the election, and he's not up all night studying national security details or economic policy positions. Instead, he's up all night obsessing about a feud he had with the winner of a beauty pageant in 1997.

This is simply unbelievable.


Alpha males don't sleep.

They're like The Terminator.
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September 30th, 2016 at 5:49:12 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: ams288
Quote: reno
You're probably right, and the big clue is the time of day of his Twitter rant. Thursday night at 10:16pm. Then Friday morning at 3:10am, then 5:14am, then 5:19am, then 5:30am. He didn't get much sleep.

It's 39 days before the election, and he's not up all night studying national security details or economic policy positions. Instead, he's up all night obsessing about a feud he had with the winner of a beauty pageant in 1997.

This is simply unbelievable.


Alpha males don't sleep.

They're like The Terminator.

Reminds me of some good Chuck Norris jokes
Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, Chuck Norris waits
some more :-)
When Chuck Norris jumps in the water, he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norris
When the boogyman goes to sleep, He checks his closet for Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris doesn't flush, he scares the shit out of it
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September 30th, 2016 at 7:46:20 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: reno
You're probably right, and the big clue is the time of day of his Twitter rant. Thursday night at 10:16pm. Then Friday morning at 3:10am, then 5:14am, then 5:19am, then 5:30am. He didn't get much sleep.

It's 39 days before the election, and he's not up all night studying national security details or economic policy positions. Instead, he's up all night obsessing about a feud he had with the winner of a beauty pageant in 1997.

This is simply unbelievable.


I think it is going to go down in history as one of the most brilliant campaign maneuvers ever. Trump can't beat this one. It doesn't matter if it was a fair charge or not.

If Trump attacks the Clinton marriage, they certainly are prepared for that one. The Clintons have a 5152 square foot single family home with 4 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms at 3067 Whitehaven St NW Washington, Washington, DC. (behind the New Zealand embassy) only 2 miles from the Whitehouse. Bill can stay there and entertain girls and be within easy hailing distance so she can trot him out for special events. I doubt he will sleep in the Whitehouse much.
September 30th, 2016 at 9:16:31 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: Pacomartin
I think it is going to go down in history as one of the most brilliant campaign maneuvers ever.


I recognize that Bill & Hillary are very smart, competent, organized, and experienced at winning elections.

But Bill & Hillary are also lucky. Bill was lucky that Ross Perot was in the 1992 race. Hillary is lucky that Trump is an erratic lunatic.
October 1st, 2016 at 9:13:02 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: reno
But Bill & Hillary are also lucky. Bill was lucky that Ross Perot was in the 1992 race. Hillary is lucky that Trump is an erratic lunatic.


Is she lucky? Or is Bill smart?

Report: Bill Clinton May Have Encouraged Donald Trump to Run for President

Quote:
According to several Trump sources (and one Clinton source) who spoke to the Post, the two men spoke over the phone in late May, shortly before Trump announced his run in June. During the call, the Trump sources said, Clinton “encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party” and “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the G.O.P. base.”


Much like Putin, it sounds like Bill Clinton knew how to pay Trump like a fiddle.
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October 11th, 2016 at 5:13:05 AM permalink
terapined
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Trump is threatening to go hard after Bill Clinton if more tapes are released
WTF
He is running against Hillary
Amazing
Does he really think threats against Bill Clinton will convince somebody not to release

Old accusations are not news, its old and known
New recordings of Trump. Previously unknown and people are interested, that's news.
Old info is not news
new info is news
Trump doesn't seem to understand this.
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October 11th, 2016 at 5:35:40 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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October 11th, 2016 at 7:03:22 AM permalink
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Quote: terapined
Trump is threatening to go hard after Bill Clinton if more tapes are released
WTF
He is running against Hillary
Amazing
Does he really think threats against Bill Clinton will convince somebody not to release


The GOP establishment hates the Clintons. Part of it did nothing between Nov. 1992 and Nov. 2000 but try to undo the 1992 election. At some level, a substantial part of the establishment still wants to see the Clintons defeated. That may be what Trump is playing for. And if it were 1996, it might even work. Last I heard, though, it's not 1996 any more (citation needed).


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Trump doesn't seem to understand this.


I'm reminded of a scene in "Liar liar" where Jim Carrey objects in court, and the judge asks him on what grounds. He answers something like "Because it's devastating to my case!"

This is exactly how Trump is coming across now. What he doesn't understand, is that he's confessing to having done or said terrible if unnamed things in the past.

BTW, word leaked out that Clinton's strategy depended on having Trump be the GOP nominee. The date of this email, March of last year, seems a bit suspect, as Trump wasn't even the silly-season candidate then. But when the best happens and Trump loses badly, hopefully dragging down much of the GOP with him, he can blame it all on the Clintons.

It's rare for a candidate who's lost a general election to run again for the presidency, but not unheard of (there was Cleveland, though with like three asterisks, and Nixon). I wouldn't be surprised if Trump runs again in 2020, should he still be alive then.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER
October 11th, 2016 at 8:05:28 AM permalink
reno
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Quote: ams288
Is she lucky? Or is Bill smart?

Report: Bill Clinton May Have Encouraged Donald Trump to Run for President



Much like Putin, it sounds like Bill Clinton knew how to pay Trump like a fiddle.


That article you linked to is from August of 2015-- we've known all along that the Clintons wanted Trump in this race. And yet no one told the right-wingers about this news from 2015! Last Friday in some emails hacked by Wikileaks, the right-wingers finally learned about this. Here's the headline on redstate.com:

Leaked Emails Show That Trump Was A Tool Used By The Hillary Campaign From Day One

Here's the headline on Erick Erickson's right-wing blog:

New Wikileaks Revelation: Clinton Was Desperate For Trump

They're pissed. And it's too bad that they got played by the Clintons, but this was already in the public domain. Time magazine, The Washington Post, Vanity Fair, The New York Times, Newsweek, MSNBC, and the Huffington Post had already disclosed this fact in the summer of 2015: 6 months before the first votes were cast! I know they don't trust the liberal media, but the liberal media gave them plenty of warning.

Moreover, as the liberal media was warning the GOP primary voters that Trump was bad news, the conservative infotainment industry was defending Trump. Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Fox & Friends all bent over backwards to excuse every Trump controversy of the last 18 months. If Trump's candidacy really was a Clinton conspiracy, it's shocking that Limbaugh & Fox News were so easily manipulated to go along with the conspiracy. Ann Coulter will sell some books, Rush Limbaugh will have higher ratings, and what will their audience have? A lost Senate, a lost Supreme Court, and Hillary Clinton in the White House.
October 11th, 2016 at 3:51:28 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: reno
That article you linked to is from August of 2015-- we've known all along that the Clintons wanted Trump in this race.

I think to refer to that as a "conspiracy" is stretching the meaning of the word. Every candidate has someone they would prefer to run against. Hillary has been called polarizing her entire career, and it's natural that she would want to run against someone who is equally polarizing.



But when was the last candidate for a first term POTUS not been polarizing? I would venture to say that Dwight D. Eisenhower / Richard Nixon slate of 1952 were the last first term presidential candidates that were not polarizing, losing only 9 southern states that at that time were almost institutionally Democratic.

Second term runs are different. Several times the incumbent has lost in post WWII elections, but the term polarizing does not readily come to mind. Possibly LBJ might have been considered a polarizing candidate, but he dropped out quickly.