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Aviation Mega Cities
| August 19th, 2016 at 4:31:58 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Well it will be very difficult to sell new ones any more. But I think the existing stock will be flown for over 30 years, and you will see airlines like Turkish Airways buying up the old Emirates planes. Although Air France wants to cancel their last two orders, British Airways is interested in adding to their 12 new ones with some used aircraft. We may finally see a VIP A380  |
| August 20th, 2016 at 6:13:53 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Unless Emirates opens up a branch elsewhere :)
The ones used for the longest flights will last longer, airframe wise, as they'll do perhaps under two cycles per day. This greatly reduces stress on the frame.
I've been wondering whether Emirates or Etihad would trick out an A380 as a kind of luxury liner. I figure things like staterooms for 2-4 people each with beds as well as seats, a lounge and bar, more showers, and even a dining area, or maybe a game room or gym. I figure the staterooms would take the whole lower deck, and the amenities the upper one. Naturally they'd carry very few passengers, maybe not even 100, but they'd pay a few truckloads of money each. Maybe when they decide to retire some... Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 20th, 2016 at 3:29:19 PM permalink | |
| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4961 |
This just comes back to your earlier point. When do people just fly private? People that are willing to pay truckloads of money are probably pretty rare and they may be capable of chartering their own plane. The company I work for just bought an older Bombardier Challenger 601 for less than $3 million. With a range over 6,000 kilometers an aircraft like that would make a great charter aircraft at a real reasonable price. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
| August 20th, 2016 at 4:31:19 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Usually the cost of private aircraft to go trans-oceanic or from Europe to Asia is ultra expensive. If every person in the plane was going to go first class, it may make a little more sense, but usually you have a few big wigs and lots of support people. It is much more common for a VIP or rich person to want a sleeping pod to cross an ocean, and then rent a smaller business jet to move around to more obscure locations. While people flying from JFK to London are often just interested in London, the British airways 32 seat A318 numbered BA-001 and BA-002 that land in London City are popular. On return to USA they stop in Shannon Ireland, where they can quickly clear US customs so they don't have to at JFK. Among the VIPs that do that frequently are the British Princes and Princesses. They fly scheduled commercial airlines across the ocean and then rent a smaller jet on location.
Where will this jet be primarily based, and do they want to cross oceans? Ranges of 5000km, 6000 km and 6878km from Washington DC. The range 6878km is listed as maximum range for the model. |
| August 20th, 2016 at 4:46:53 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | So WHY does Airbus pick MegaAirport Singapore to introduce its pilot-less air taxis?????? http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/08/194712/airbus-self-piloting-flying-taxis-see-light-soon/ University of Singapore to be developer of pilotless air taxi for Airbus next year. |
| August 20th, 2016 at 4:57:05 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |   I presume self flying taxis will go to a limited number of predetermined pick up and drop off points. The terrafugia flying car will try to land in big fields. |
| August 20th, 2016 at 5:22:37 PM permalink | |
| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4961 |
This plane wasn't purchased for that purpose. The main purpose was just to be able to fly within the U.S. without having to stop for fuel. The other planes don't have that much range. This plane did make a trip from Vegas to Hawaii recently. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
| August 20th, 2016 at 6:13:33 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Quite a difference $3million gets you for an older or a brand new aircraft. The Eclipse 550 costs $3m, and seats 4-5 passengers. But even from Oklahoma City or Fargo ND the range (2084 km) is insufficient to reach many US mainland cities, let alone Hawaii. But 6000km is sufficient to fly from Boston to Ireland (2,895 mi = 4660 km) |
| August 21st, 2016 at 7:16:03 AM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Or perhaps relieve San Diego of any need for expansion of capacity by providing dedicated corridors for rapid, silent, on-demand service? |
| August 21st, 2016 at 8:26:26 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I don't think air taxis are going to move enough people. About 25% of San Diego's traffic is going to the top 10 airports, and 5 out of 10 of those airports are 500 miles or less. The idea that intrigues planners constantly is can they move those people in some other way (rail, lighter than air, or even bus) than by using the valuable single runway.
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