Ways to stop the Republicans

Too many idealogues in this country
now. I try and vote for who I think will
be best, or vote against who will be
worst. I voted Obama in 08 because
McCain is a RINO asshat and Obama
was an unknown. In 2012 I voted
against him because he was obviously
an incompetent narcissist. I voted
against Hillary because she's an evil
witch with no morals and no ability
to lead a troop of Girl Scouts, let alone
the US.

I wonder how much support the DNC can offer Republican Representatives and Senators?

Plenty of people in congress cannot stomach Trump, and are against many if his proposals. But regular party unity and coercion might just keep them toeing the line. More so if Trump threatens again to set his supporters against them.

The thing is races for the House are usually won in the primaries, not in the actual election, thanks to gerrymandering. A "safe" republican or Democratic seat seldom changes parties in the short term, but a primary opponent can unseat the incumbent. All the easier if the latter stops receiving support from their party's central committee.

It's a good chance to build bipartisanship and reach out to Trump opponents in the GOP. But it won't be easy, and having open or even covert DNC support could torpedo a siting representative in a primary race as surely as if they cut their own throat.

Quote: AZDuffman

Satire is an art. This is part of why Limbaugh is so successful. Just push the right certain buttons the right way. George Carlin was also a master. No safe space needed.

Yeah, Rush can be pretty funny.

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If you believe in God, then intellectually you cannot believe in man-made global warming. You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he cannot create.

A Dem introduced a bill today to change
the constitution and abolish the EC. It
has to pass both houses and be ratified
by 37 states before it's law. Never gonna
happen. Why would they ever vote to
change they way they just won.

Quote: Evenbob

A Dem introduced a bill today to change
the constitution and abolish the EC. It
has to pass both houses and be ratified
by 37 states before it's law. Never gonna
happen. Why would they ever vote to
change they way they just won.

Hillary did the same in 2001, he fist thing she did.

Quote: AZDuffman

Hillary did the same in 2001, the first thing she did.

Carl Rove said something today I didn't
think of. Get rid of the EC and you'll have
a dozen candidates on the ballot, all from
different parties. You could easily have a
winner get 25% of the vote, which means
75% didn't vote for him. And runoff elections
would be inevitable some years. It would be
a mess, banana republic here we come.

And even if it somehow got thru congress,
37 states would never ratify it. There are
more red states than blue, which ones would
ever give up what has become a boon to
them. They would all vote hell no, we aren't
stupid.

Finally, there are about 3000 counties in the
US. The majority of the population lives in
167 of those counties. That means every
election would be decided by a small
fraction of the country. Why even bother
to vote if you're not in those 167 counties.

Quote: Evenbob

Carl Rove said something today I didn't
think of. Get rid of the EC and you'll have
a dozen candidates on the ballot, all from
different parties. You could easily have a
winner get 25% of the vote, which means
75% didn't vote for him. And runoff elections
would be inevitable some years. It would be
a mess, banana republic here we come.
.

Pretty sure if you look at the turnout of Republicans which pick their candidate through primaries, it's actually less than 25% of the population that picked Trump over the others.

Same with Democrats.

So you get a candidate that is actually selected by a much smaller portion of the population than at general election.

Quote: rxwine

Pretty sure if you look at the turnout of Republicans which pick their candidate through primaries,.

Primaries and general are apples and
oranges. You don't want a president
that 75% of the people didn't vote
for in the general. It also invites
dynasties to start, that's why Hillary
and Obama wanted open borders.
Get enough illegals in here and you
would never see another president
other than Dem. No matter how hard
you try, there will always be people
wanting the system the founding fathers
escaped from. One family or one party
rule for generation after generation.

I like all the talk of protesters at the
inauguration. They can't possibly
have more than was there in 2001,
when W 'stole' the election. They
were yelling and screaming along the
whole route on Pennsylvania Ave.
Meant nothing, will mean nothing
this time.

Quote: Evenbob

Primaries and general are apples and
oranges. You don't want a president
that 75% of the people didn't vote
for in the general..

But that's what I'm saying. The candidates we actually choose from are chosen by less than 25% of the population.

I mean, it's the public's fault that it works that way because so few vote in the early rounds.

Quote: rxwine

But that's what I'm saying. The candidates we actually choose from are chosen by less than 25% of the population.
.

But the choice we're given isn't a dozen
in the general from 12 different parties.
Miss America has 50 or more girls,
they don't vote for 1 girl out of 50,
they whittle it down to just a few
contenders. That way the judges
(voters) have to pick the best of out
of a few, rather than the best out of
many. You're mistaking the whittling
down process as being the same as
the general.

60mil for Trump, 60mil for Hillary, give
or take. Not 30mil for the winner and
90mil for all the losers. You think we
have protests now..