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November 28th, 2016 at 5:15:10 PM permalink
buzzardknot
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Is there a fund I can contribute to that will help California secede ?
November 28th, 2016 at 6:07:22 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: buzzardknot
Is there a fund I can contribute to that will help California secede ?


Hard to say where more money would come from, inside or outside CA.
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November 28th, 2016 at 6:07:32 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: buzzardknot
Is there a fund I can contribute to that will help California secede ?


Start a gofundme for the cause. You can then take the money and do what ever you want with it to piss Californians off. That would still meet the reason for the fund.
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December 4th, 2016 at 6:38:19 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Should California secede? How the state is politically out-of-step with the rest of the country?

LA Times editorial.

The point at this point in time is not the chance of it happening, it is the that a movement is starting and people who want to leave and people who want them to leave can really agree on the reasons. The reasons are also broad. No critical mass, but might be getting the starts of a chain reaction.
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December 4th, 2016 at 7:54:33 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
No critical mass, but might be getting the starts of a chain reaction.


I think it may be fun to talk about, but I don't see the USA breaking up in our lifetime. The contrast between urban vs suburban & rural is much more extreme within any given state that it dwarfs the contrast from state to state. The Pacific states are simply more urban.
December 4th, 2016 at 8:02:44 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
I think it may be fun to talk about, but I don't see the USA breaking up in our lifetime.


I bet people in the 1850s thought the same thing.
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December 4th, 2016 at 8:29:45 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Nareed
I bet people in the 1850s thought the same thing.


I am not that sure. Although the country had only been formed in 1788, I think many people grew up thinking of the North and south as vastly different cultures.

Discussions of secession arise in most countries periodically I am sure that Nuevo Leon (4.653 million) and Tamaulipas (3.269 million ) as a relatively powerful economic area with a shoreline and a major city must think about the viability of being a country.
December 4th, 2016 at 9:19:21 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
I am not that sure. Although the country had only been formed in 1788, I think many people grew up thinking of the North and south as vastly different cultures.


State loyalty was rather stronger then. You've no idea how ridiculous it sounds to the rest of the world when you speak of small and big states, especially in relation to the EC, as though they weren't part of the same country.


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Discussions of secession arise in most countries periodically I am sure that Nuevo Leon (4.653 million) and Tamaulipas (3.269 million ) as a relatively powerful economic area with a shoreline and a major city must think about the viability of being a country.


Things are vastly more centralized down here, though you've been catching up since the late 1860s.
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December 4th, 2016 at 3:03:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin
I think it may be fun to talk about, but I don't see the USA breaking up in our lifetime. The contrast between urban vs suburban & rural is much more extreme within any given state that it dwarfs the contrast from state to state. The Pacific states are simply more urban.


Myself I do not think thd USA has 50 years left in current form. I don't know that it has yet but this generation it looks like CA will feel more loyalty towards Mexico than thd USA. This happens in regions. New cultures overwhelm. Alliances shift. The cultural split is already here in many ways. One day it will be too much.
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December 4th, 2016 at 4:32:22 PM permalink
Wizard
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Sorry for the late arrival. I assume this is just a statement thing California is talking about doing. When I go to Oregon and Washington I sometimes see posters for Cascadia seceding.

p.s. Here is their web site.
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