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March 21st, 2017 at 7:56:48 AM permalink
kenarman
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That's exactly my point.

Gun control works when you don't have a state next door where thugs can easily get any gun on demand.


Or possibly because the thugs don't get across the border to start with.
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:00:13 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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That's exactly my point.

Gun control works when you don't have a state next door where thugs can easily get any gun on demand.


But why is the violence not as high in the state next door?
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:16:00 AM permalink
ams288
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But why is the violence not as high in the state next door?


You're wrong.

Gun violence rates are higher in Indiana.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:32:39 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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You're wrong.

Gun violence rates are higher in Indiana.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm


That is state vs state. The question was about Democrat-run, gun-grabbing Chicago.

Chicago rate is higher.

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March 21st, 2017 at 8:38:30 AM permalink
ams288
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That is state vs state. The question was about Democrat-run, gun-grabbing Chicago.

Chicago rate is higher.



Yeah, I was comparing apples to apples. It'd be stupid to compare a big metropolitan city to an entire state.
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:45:21 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Yeah, I was comparing apples to apples. It'd be stupid to compare a big metropolitan city to an entire state.


YOU brought up the gun laws in Indiana when asked about the murder rate in Chicago.

I want to know why then the gun deaths in Indiana are not similar to the gun deaths in Chicago. If the whole state is full of guns why are the guns not shooting people same as the guns shoot people in Chicago?

I am guessing you then agree it is not gun laws but something else that makes high violence in Chicago?
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:53:30 AM permalink
ams288
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I am guessing you then agree it is not gun laws but something else that makes high violence in Chicago?


Why single out Chicago when it's not even in the top 10 of the list you posted? (That's not a specific question for you - righties in general tend to want to scapegoat Chicago).

And you also seem to be ignoring the fact that Indianapolis, Indiana is right below Chicago on your list...
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:56:40 AM permalink
ams288
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YOU brought up the gun laws in Indiana when asked about the murder rate in Chicago.


Yes. Because Indiana is where many of the guns in "gun grabbing" Chicago come from.

And then you incorrectly said that violence was not as high in the state next store. And I pointed out that the state next door to Illinois has higher gun violence rates. And here we are.
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March 21st, 2017 at 9:05:38 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Why single out Chicago when it's not even in the top 10 of the list you posted? (That's not a specific question for you - righties in general tend to want to scapegoat Chicago).


1. Because Chicago has a long standing reputation as a gun-grabbing jurisdiction
2. Chicago has been a Democrat-Machine city for over 100 years

So, Chicago is a poster child for Democrats and Democrat policies and yet is a very violent place, showing the failures of said policies.

Quote: ams288
Yes. Because Indiana is where many of the guns in "gun grabbing" Chicago come from.


But if the guns are illegal then they should not be in Chicago!
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March 21st, 2017 at 9:56:24 AM permalink
ams288
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But if the guns are illegal then they should not be in Chicago!


Exactly. What can be done to stop Indiana from selling said guns to criminals?
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