Can Hillary Still Win?

September 19th, 2017 at 3:38:04 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Clinton Blames 2016 Loss On ‘Politically Dependent’ White Women

Add those white women to the list! Is there anyone she has not blamed?

This is really rich considering she basically wrote off the white vote, as Democrats in general did sometime between 2008-2012.
The President is a fink.
September 19th, 2017 at 7:10:16 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
Add those white women to the list! Is there anyone she has not blamed?


To be fair to Hillary, most analysts made the observations about white women without degrees as the pivotal voting black last November. This comment is nothing new.

Quote: White Women Helped Elect Donald Trump, By KATIE ROGERS NOV. 9, 2016 NY Times
The data indicate how deeply divided Americans are by race and gender: 94 percent of black women who voted and 68 percent of Hispanic or Latino female voters chose Hillary Clinton, but 53 percent of all white female voters picked Mr. Trump. The data can be broken down further: 51 percent of white women with college degrees voted for Mrs. Clinton, while 62 percent of women without one voted for Mr. Trump, a reflection of his success with working-class whites.
September 19th, 2017 at 8:17:08 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin
To be fair to Hillary, most analysts made the observations about white women without degrees as the pivotal voting black last November. This comment is nothing new.


Yes, but they didn't blame them and insinuate that the women were told how to vote by their husbands.

I agree, working class whites migrating to the GOP is why Trump won, end of story. Same as they elected Reagan a generation ago.
The President is a fink.
October 9th, 2017 at 3:04:52 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Something we haven't done is look on a state by state basis and see how each candidate did compared to their same party candidate in 2012. I am envisioning a sort of "retention" metric.

Third party candidates took more votes in 2016 so both candidates did a worse than their predecessor nationwide. But in the battle ground states Trump did the same or better than Romney. Clinton did much worse than Obama.

Trump vs Romney Clinton vs Obama State
-1.1% -2.9% U.S. Total
-0.1% -2.2% Florida
0.0% -6.2% Minnesota
1.3% -6.4% Wisconsin
1.6% -4.5% Pennsylvania
2.8% -6.9% Michigan
4.0% -7.1% Ohio



Quote: AZDuffman
I agree, working class whites migrating to the GOP is why Trump won, end of story. Same as they elected Reagan a generation ago.

Your assessment seems correct by the table above.

All the states (not that Hillary got a higher percentage than Obama in only 5 states).

Trump vs Romney Clinton vs Obama State
-27.3% 2.7% Utah
-5.5% 1.5% California
-5.3% -5.1% Idaho
-5.0% 0.5% Arizona
-4.9% 1.9% Texas
-4.7% -0.6% Massachusetts
-4.5% -3.6% Washington
-3.5% -4.3% Alaska
-3.2% -0.4% District of Columbia
-3.1% -1.9% Kansas
-3.1% -4.2% Oregon
-2.9% -3.3% Colorado
-2.9% -1.4% Virginia
-2.8% -4.7% New Mexico
-2.5% 0.2% Georgia
-2.0% -1.6% Maryland
-2.0% -1.8% Illinois
-1.5% -4.3% Oklahoma
-1.2% -6.2% Wyoming
-1.1% -2.9% U.S. Total
-1.1% -4.3% Nebraska (at-lg)
-0.7% -9.9% Vermont
-0.6% -2.2% North Carolina
-0.2% -4.4% Nevada
-0.1% -2.2% Florida
0.0% -6.2% Minnesota
0.0% -3.2% Arkansas
0.2% -3.5% Connecticut
0.2% -5.0% New Hampshire
0.3% -2.1% Louisiana
0.4% -3.4% South Carolina
0.4% -3.4% New Jersey
0.8% -6.0% Montana
1.2% -4.4% Tennessee
1.3% -6.4% Wisconsin
1.4% -4.3% New York
1.5% -4.0% Alabama
1.6% -4.5% Pennsylvania
1.7% -5.5% Delaware
2.0% -5.1% Kentucky
2.2% -8.3% Hawaii
2.7% -3.7% Mississippi
2.7% -6.0% Indiana
2.8% -6.9% Michigan
3.0% -6.2% Missouri
3.6% -8.1% South Dakota
3.7% -8.3% Rhode Island
3.9% -8.4% Maine (at-lg)
4.0% -7.1% Ohio
4.6% -11.5% North Dakota
5.0% -10.3% Iowa
6.2% -9.1% West Virginia
October 16th, 2017 at 10:29:37 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Hillary Clinton breaks toe falling down stairs, misses BBC interview

Fell down the stairs this time, instead of
up them. lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/16/hillary-clinton-breaks-toe-falling-stairs-misses-bbc-interview/
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 17th, 2017 at 12:51:35 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Hear the latest plan? When Mueller
proves Trump colluded with Putin, him
and Pence will have to resign and Ryan
will become president. He'll make Hillary
VP and immediately resign because he's
a loyal patriot.

I kid you not, this is being talked about.
Hillary is on crutches from falling down
(again), hopefully she'll recover in time
for her swearing in. LOLOLOL!
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 17th, 2017 at 1:56:39 PM permalink
Dalex64
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First I've heard of it.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
October 17th, 2017 at 2:08:31 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Hear the latest plan? When Mueller
proves Trump colluded with Putin, him
and Pence will have to resign and Ryan
will become president. He'll make Hillary
VP and immediately resign because he's
a loyal patriot.

I kid you not, this is being talked about


I believe that is a liberal dream. It is amazing how they believe the Russia nonsense.
The President is a fink.
October 17th, 2017 at 2:11:51 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Evenbob
Hear the latest plan? When Mueller
proves Trump colluded with Putin, him
and Pence will have to resign and Ryan
will become president. He'll make Hillary
VP and immediately resign because he's
a loyal patriot.

I kid you not, this is being talked about.

ROTFL
FAKE NEWS
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 17th, 2017 at 2:27:15 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: terapined
ROTFL
FAKE NEWS


Newsweek has published it.
The President is a fink.