The Trump implosion thread!

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April 21st, 2017 at 6:34:39 PM permalink
Dalex64
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/21/chuck-schumer-obamacare-subsidies-border-wall-237469

Quote:
The White House is offering Democrats a dollar-for-dollar deal to fund Obamacare subsidies and the border wall in the upcoming spending bill, according to budget director Mick Mulvaney


Combining two broken promises, repeal Obamacare and Mexico is going to pay for the wall, into a government funding proposal.

Quote: Chuck Schumer
The White House gambit to hold hostage health care for millions of Americans, in order to force American taxpayers to foot the bill for a wall that the president said would be paid for by Mexico is a complete nonstarter


I haven't seen a republican reaction to this proposal yet.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
April 21st, 2017 at 6:34:43 PM permalink
Dalex64
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"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
April 21st, 2017 at 6:50:03 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Dalex64
Combining two broken promises, repeal Obamacare and Mexico is going to pay for the wall, into a government funding proposal.


Perhaps they can try to get Mexico to pay for Obamacare?
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April 22nd, 2017 at 8:49:44 PM permalink
rxwine
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wingnut Hannity loses it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hannity-attacks-ny-times-after-report-says-he-advises-trump/ar-BBAa76I?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
April 23rd, 2017 at 10:06:35 AM permalink
ams288
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Donald actually tweeted this today:

Quote: @realDonaldTrump
Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early, Mexico will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall.


Probably wouldn't have been as catchy if he had his crowds chant that during the campaign, eh?
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April 23rd, 2017 at 1:37:06 PM permalink
Dalex64
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He did have some ideas, which wouldn't work, on how to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

Contrast that with his completely non-existent plan to defeat ISIS.
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April 23rd, 2017 at 2:53:36 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Dalex64
Contrast that with his completely non-existent plan to defeat ISIS.


The first crusade was almost 1000 years ago. That is the war that we are still fighting. No body has figured out how to win it in a millennium not likely to see it ever happen.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
April 23rd, 2017 at 3:29:58 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: kenarman
The first crusade was almost 1000 years ago. That is the war that we are still fighting. No body has figured out how to win it in a millennium not likely to see it ever happen.


Islam admits they are still fighting the
war the Crusades started. They want
to rule the world and take it back
to the 12th century.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 23rd, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: kenarman
The first crusade was almost 1000 years ago. That is the war that we are still fighting. No body has figured out how to win it in a millennium not likely to see it ever happen.


So you didn't believe Trump either when he said he had a plan to defeat ISIS?

Or did you think he did have a plan, but no matter what it was, it was doomed to fail?
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
April 23rd, 2017 at 4:30:57 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Dalex64
So you didn't believe Trump either when he said he had a plan to defeat ISIS?

Or did you think he did have a plan, but no matter what it was, it was doomed to fail?


Depends on how you define defeat and ISIS. You can defeat the current lead group of Moslem militance/independence, it will be replaced. Trump might be able to force a peace for his time as president does that mean he has defeated them? Wars over lands taken from someone are never over. Did the US defeat the Indians? How is that going now? No hard feelings or independence issues there. How about the Mexican wars and Calexit?

The libs think that talking and negotiating will create a permanent solution. History shows over and over that it is never permanent if someone has lost their homeland.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin