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The Trump implosion thread!
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| July 7th, 2018 at 4:14:06 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Which is exactly what the Left does every time they call Trump a racist. Or every time they use the word racist. It means different things to people now, just like many words do. "As of the 2000s, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition... The meaning of the term racism is often conflated with the terms prejudice, bigotry, and discrimination. Racism is a complex concept that can involve each of those.." Wiki If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| July 7th, 2018 at 4:39:41 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | So do you support the new definition of racism or don't you? What have you been arguing for? It isn't just the left, either. Right here in this thread you have been calling out actions by the left as racist that only fit the new definition of racism you are providing to us. By doing this, you are being complicit, and are supporting an expanded definition for racism. If the issues you brought up are "see how they like it", well that simply doesn't work. It isn't going to re-narrow what you think racism now means, and it isn't going to stop the left from misusing the term. They will just use your examples and say "well the right did it so it must be ok" just like you do for the left. "But they did it first" , something I see a lot from you guys, is not a valid justification for bad words or actions. Something is either bad or it isn't, and the other side repeating something bad doesn't magically make it good. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| July 7th, 2018 at 4:50:14 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Some of it. The old meaning has no meaning anymore. I think the word is over used. If you demean another person for their race, you're a racist. If you just mention their race, you are not. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| July 7th, 2018 at 4:59:45 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4515 | I think this quote from the Merriam-Webster is applicable to the racism discussion. It also that the opposing sides will find an answer to their differences. "Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing." "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| July 16th, 2018 at 9:15:47 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 | I am at the moment looking for the next real job. Agency I was at the woman said how busy they were and said "Trump did this!" We got to talking, and yet again I heard the same thing. She said it was literally overnight after Trump was elected that the phone started ringing, businesses needing workers. Said they were not even making sales calls, the employers were calling them. Also said that their biggest problem was not enough people showing up. Some folks still want to do their 47% thing and rely on assistance it seems. Funniest part was when she told me that they had a few liberals applied, I guess they said they did not care for Trump at some point or something. She claimed they rarely worked out and how much better workers the Trump supporters were! MAGA! The President is a fink. |
| July 16th, 2018 at 2:39:34 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
That's been the case for a long time. Libs have always been the dope smoking long haired lay about's, with their hands always out for free this or that. Most of the hippie types I knew years ago were all Jane Fonda Libs, piss and moan and complain and sleep till noon every day. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| July 16th, 2018 at 5:56:25 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | So I was thinking, where was this out of the blue jobs antecdote coming from? Then it hit me - Trump must have done something stupid today. So let's see. I found some conservative saying Trump "threw America under the bus" today with his comments. What did he say? Russia had nothing to do with it. How does he know? Not from what our intelligence agencies or panels say, no, he knows it because again Putin told him, quite strongly this time, that Russia had nothing to do with it. So there it is, iron clad proof. Oh wait, no it isn't. Also when Putin was asked if they had any "kompromat" (compromising information) on Trump, he said
What a strong denial. Oh wait, no it isn't. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| July 16th, 2018 at 6:50:33 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Trump screwed up, he should have pissed Putin off so we would be at DEFCON 2 right now. The press would be praising him.. No they wouldn't. They would be screaming Trump got us WW III. The only outcome they would have been happy with is, and there's only one, if Putin had somehow provided proof there was collusion. The media would be overjoyed. Now they want him impeached for making peace. I'd love to hear their argument for that. Q. What crime did Trump commit? Answer from dems in congress: He made peace with Russia. Response from the rest of congress: The bastard! Impeach!! lol If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| July 17th, 2018 at 5:05:44 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12532 |
This is the best defense you've got? Was Rush on vacation yesterday or something? “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| July 17th, 2018 at 11:22:21 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You want some Rush? This is why the media and the Deep State is in meltdown again. They got played by Trump for the zillionth time: We’re told that Donald Trump can go ahead and — in a press conference with Vladimir Putin — he can acknowledge that the Russians meddled, while at the same time be protected from any allegation that he colluded. Sorry, folks. If Donald Trump had done what they wanted him to do yesterday — if Donald Trump had done what they were trying to force him to do — if Donald Trump had acknowledged to Vladimir Putin’s face that he had meddled in the 2016 presidential election? Before that press conference was over, the New York Times would have a headline: “Trump Validates Mueller Investigation.” “Trump Acknowledges Russians Affected Election Outcome.” “Trump Acknowledges Russia May Have Played a Role in Thwarting American Democracy.” They were chomping at the bit for Trump to defend the very people who are trying to destroy him, the intel crowd. But he didn't do it, and they go insane. Today CNN would be screaming that even Trump admits the election was fixed and Hillary really won. He took that away from them yesterday and it's so much fun to watch them today. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |