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The Trump implosion thread!
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| November 4th, 2018 at 1:57:14 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Obama went down in the polling every quarter after he was elected and Lost the House and Senate in 2010.  Trump is the opposite. His polling has generally risen the longer he's in office. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 4th, 2018 at 4:30:17 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | A Gallup poll, too funny! Are you comparing that to Rasmussen or something? How about Gallup to Gallup? Not sure how this link is going to turn out, but Gallup has this interactive approval tool https://news.gallup.com/interactives/185273/r.aspx?g_source=WWWV7HP&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles It doesn't back your assertion, generally. Heck, even rasmussen's approval graph doesn't back your assertion. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| November 4th, 2018 at 4:45:48 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Shame nobody showed up for Trump's rally in GA today. He's so hated only 10's of thousands attended.  If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 4th, 2018 at 5:55:52 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | “I would rarely leave the White House because there's so much work to be done,” - Trump Donald Trump is to spend at least 40 days campaigning across America for the mid-term elections – more than either Barack Obama or George W Bush did while in office. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/21/donald-trump-spend-40-days-campaigning-mid-term-elections/amp/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-election_Donald_Trump_rallies "Taxpayers are paying a fortune for the use of Air Force One on the campaign trail by President Obama and Crooked Hillary. A total disgrace!" - Trump "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| November 4th, 2018 at 6:06:34 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4492 |
Where did I mention Gallup? I quoted Ramussen which I knew you would dismiss and NBC which I thought you might give some credence to even it doesn't fit your personal prejudice. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| November 4th, 2018 at 6:20:35 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You have no idea how TDS works, do you. Rational arguments fall of deaf ears. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 4th, 2018 at 6:28:42 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
I was pointing out the Gallup poll image in Bob's post directly prior to my own. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| November 4th, 2018 at 6:36:03 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Ok I looked at this. 538 says NBC said 46% Nov 1-3 and that linked to https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/democrats-hold-7-point-edge-final-national-nbc-wsj-poll-n931001 Which says his October number was 45, characterizes it as stable. Rasmussen is also quite bouncy, as it is a daily poll, but it has also been pretty stable but up 5 points or so from its lowest. It has been kissing and crossing 50 recently more than it has been kissing and crossing 45 as before. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| November 4th, 2018 at 6:39:19 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4492 |
Which is my point Trump is rising in the polls. We will see in a couple of days if it means anything. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| November 5th, 2018 at 4:13:12 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Ok. Back to Gallup polls, so we can compare apples to apples. https://news.gallup.com/poll/243971/trump-job-approval-improves.aspx A little bit down the page is the trump quarterly job approval ratings average, to be compared against the Obama quarterly job approval rating average that evenbob posted. You can see there his rating started at 41.3, dipped over several quarters to 36.8, recovered over several quarters to 41.9, and then fell in the last quarter to 41.2, a number they said was boosted by a late approval ratings boost. That helps complete the picture that even Bob was trying to paint. I would not characterise falling from where you started, recovering to slightly higher, and then falling back to where you started as "generally risen" And since we are comparing the two, Obama's approval did fall quarter over quarter but still has not been as low as Trump's approval at its highest. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |