The Trump implosion thread!

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November 29th, 2016 at 1:54:04 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Posts: 452
Quote: Nareed
What kind of penalty can be imposed upon successfully impeaching and convicting a president?

If it's just removal from office, is it even worth it?


Scholars have written on this issue...here is one I found...

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1887&context=fss_papers

...and an article on it...

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/25/weekinreview/the-nation-a-primer-prosecuting-a-president.html
...While Mr. Wolf smoked opium and grinned at Mama Bear
November 29th, 2016 at 2:03:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 105
Posts: 10174
Quote: TheCesspit
So nice empty words from you, and hypocrisy too. .


HUH? What are you talking about. What
hypocrisy.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:06:30 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 105
Posts: 10174
Trump is making Tom Price, a doctor,
the biggest opponent to Obamacare,
as his HHS secretary. So much for
Stinky's claim that we've been 'had'
and Trump will do none of the things
he promised. Bye bye Obamacare.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:33:19 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 111
Posts: 4444
Quote: Evenbob
Trump is making Tom Price, a doctor,
the biggest opponent to Obamacare,
as his HHS secretary. So much for
Stinky's claim that we've been 'had'
and Trump will do none of the things
he promised. Bye bye Obamacare.


Planned parenthood rates him a zero.

Price said it was a sad day when the right to same sex marriage passed.

Other than that...
No one has ever proven I am not God.
November 29th, 2016 at 3:05:48 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 301
Posts: 10008
Quote: rxwine
Other than that...


Other than that, cabinet secretaries do not make laws.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
November 29th, 2016 at 3:08:13 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 105
Posts: 10174
Quote: rxwine
Planned parenthood rates him a zero.
.


I rate PP a -100, so what.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 29th, 2016 at 3:16:37 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 105
Posts: 10174
Quote: rxwine

Other than that...


Tom Price already has a written plan
that will replace Obamacare once
it's repealed. Yet Stinks says Trump
will do none of the things he promised,
and we were 'had'. Looks like Stinko
is the that's been had.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
November 29th, 2016 at 4:29:25 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 755
Quote: Evenbob
And the media still doesn't get it, they're
still rubbing their heads in puzzlement.


True. And I'm puzzled too.

Quote: Evenbob
People who were sick of slaughtering
babies in the womb,


I'm puzzled why any pro-lifer could vote for Trump since he's been a strong supporter of abortion rights for at least 3 decades. In 1989 he co-sponsored a fundraiser for NARAL, in 1999 he told Tim Russert that he wanted to keep partial-birth abortion legal, and in February of 2016 he praised all the good work done by Planned Parenthood.

Quote: Evenbob
sick of illegals
coming across the border unchecked


I'm puzzled why Trump voters don't seem to care about Trump's own history hiring illegals. Between 1979 and 1980 Trump employed 200 undocumented laborers to build Trump Tower. He has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same jobs. For his new hotel in Washington DC, he hired illegal workers from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. Trump Model Management has profited from using foreign models who came to the United States on tourist visas that did not permit them to work here, according to three former Trump models, all noncitizens.

Quote: Evenbob
He could have killed somebody and still
got elected.


This is probably true. Millions of voters were conned by this charlatan.
November 29th, 2016 at 4:36:08 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 755
Quote: Wizard
I propose laying 2 to 1 that Trump will successfully complete one term of office. Whether he runs for or wins reelection is immaterial. He simply needs to complete a full term.


The Wizard is making a safe bet.

Trump would never resign. (He is incapable of admitting a mistake.)

Impeachment is initiated by the House of Representatives, and it takes 2/3 of the Senate to vote for a conviction. Most GOP Congressmen will support Trump no matter what.
November 29th, 2016 at 4:48:15 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 301
Posts: 10008
Quote: reno
Most GOP Congressmen will support Trump no matter what.


I wouldn't bet on that.

If the Orange Man does something so massively unpopular, and illegal, that 65+% of voters want him gone, that's a good chance to showcase their faux integrity and vote to convict.

Clinton got impeached almost entirely on GOP animus. Most people saw the charge as a minor infraction, far, far from the "high crimes and misdemeanors" the Constitution requires. Besides, he was still kind of popular.

Curiously the victim of Clinton fatigue was Al Gore.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.