The Trump implosion thread!

Quote: AZDuffman

Seat Belt should be your choice

You should pay higher insurance rates then. You're either more injured or dead. Exiting the vehicle early almost always results in more injuries.

Quote: AZDuffman

Being unvaccinated does not affect anyone else.

The government needs to be out of more things.

You have been given the reasons why you are just dead wrong on your first sentence. I won't respond anymore about it. Anyone who wants to argue about it just wants to argue for arguments sake. You can say you don't care if the immunocompromised kid gets the measles because he cannot be vaccinated, but please do not say being unvaccinated does not affect anyone else.

I totally agree on your second point.

NASCAR tested letting race car drivers fly out of their cars and it failed to reduce injures.


not really.

Quote: AZDuffman

Seat Belt should be your choice
Rest of first part are things that will affect others

You should be able to cut down a tree on your own property
You should be allowed to do something about deer
An addition that is based on where you live. Some smaller places no need.
Blasting music also affects others

Being unvaccinated does not affect anyone else. The anti-choice crowd has not given a reason other than "BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS SO!"

Yet most of the same crowd will march for unrestricted abortion based on "HER BODY HER CHOICE!" Abortion does affect someone else. It kills someone else.

If measles and mumps were a problem then there might be an argument. They are not.

The government needs to be out of more things.

That is simply not true. It impacts the community.

Also, even if it was true (its not), making a decision that impacts the health of a child negatively is wrong.

Quote: AZDuffman

Being unvaccinated does not affect anyone else.

You are wrong. Dead wrong.

Tell that to the mom who had a baby die of pertussis.

Yeah, I know there are only a few a year.

Too young to get vaccinated, a baby comes in contact with a person who has pertussis.

The baby gets symptoms at first that resemble other things and that are not severe.

Then it gets worse.

The baby is hospitalized.

The baby dies.

All because someone did not bother to get the shot.

Be the one that has to comfort the medical professional who treated the baby and had no way of knowing that it had something so deadly, Yeah, everyone has told her that no one could have seen it when the baby was in the clinic. I've studied up on it to understand they are right to help her understand. She knows it in her mind...but her heart...

The hurt never goes away for the parent or a caring provider continually asking "why" or "what if"...

Not getting vaccinated does hurt others.

Deny it all you want. You are wrong. Dead wrong.

Quote: RonC

You are wrong. Dead wrong.

Tell that to the mom who had a baby die of pertussis.

Yeah, I know there are only a few a year.

Too young to get vaccinated, a baby comes in contact with a person who has pertussis.

The baby gets symptoms at first that resemble other things and that are not severe.

Then it gets worse.

The baby is hospitalized.

The baby dies.

All because someone did not bother to get the shot.

Be the one that has to comfort the medical professional who treated the baby and had no way of knowing that it had something so deadly, Yeah, everyone has told her that no one could have seen it when the baby was in the clinic. I've studied up on it to understand they are right to help her understand. She knows it in her mind...but her heart...

The hurt never goes away for the parent or a caring provider continually asking "why" or "what if"...

Not getting vaccinated does hurt others.

Deny it all you want. You are wrong. Dead wrong.

What about a woman who aborts a child that the father of the child wanted?

Quote: SOOPOO

You have been given the reasons why you are just dead wrong on your first sentence. I won't respond anymore about it. Anyone who wants to argue about it just wants to argue for arguments sake. You can say you don't care if the immunocompromised kid gets the measles because he cannot be vaccinated, but please do not say being unvaccinated does not affect anyone else.

I totally agree on your second point.

Don't look at me, look at the lefty who dragged it up yet again. They will not let it die.

Quote: Gandler

Also, even if it was true (its not), making a decision that impacts the health of a child negatively is wrong.

So you are against abortion then?

Quote: aceofspades

What about a woman who aborts a child that the father of the child wanted?

I was specifically addressing the vaccine issue.

I am pro-life.

Remember last week when righties were highlighting one poll that showed approval of how Donny was handling the coronavirus at 60%?

Quote:

Corona approval: Trump’s coronavirus approval is underwater, and down 12 points since early last week, from +10 (52–42%) to -2 (47–49%).

Early mishandling: A full 40% of 2016 Trump voters say he didn’t take coronavirus seriously enough early on, up 17 points since early last week.

Inadequate response: 51% of Americans say Trump isn’t doing enough right now, up 10 points (from 41%) since early last week.

This is why I never sweat one good poll. It’s Donny, he will ALWAYS manage to eff it up for himself...