First 100 Days of Trump
April 4th, 2017 at 4:33:45 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I don't recall a single, actual filibuster in the Senate during my lifetime (the one on The West Wing doesn't count), though there have been some in state legislatures (would those be like the minor leagues?) So it's all like a bluff that's believed and either out-voted or not. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
April 4th, 2017 at 5:27:38 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | The Susan Rice story is growing by the minute. Independent investigators are saying it's an octopus with tentacles stretching everywhere in the Obama admin. CNN's big story is a dog lost in MN. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 4th, 2017 at 7:24:03 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Gee, I thought the sex scandals and settlements at Fox news were huge stories and growing by the minute. But you wouldn't know that if Fox news was your only source of news. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
April 4th, 2017 at 7:29:43 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
It is actually the secret hold or Senate hold I was thinking of. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_hold Same 60 votes needed, as cloture, to bypass. Back 10 years or so ago things really slowed down because of these things. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
April 4th, 2017 at 8:44:40 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11791 |
Yup Trump is probably clueless Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
April 4th, 2017 at 11:56:42 PM permalink | |
RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2509 |
"It takes 60 votes to invoke cloture, so 41 senators can indefinitely block a confirmation by refusing to vote for cloture." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/us/politics/filibuster-supreme-court-neil-gorsuch.html The rule on cloture was changed when Harry Reid (D-Nev) invoked the "nuclear option" on certain cloture votes a few years ago. The Democrats are acting as if doing the same thing now is somehow horrible; they knew this would happen once the precedent was sent but they are acting as if it is just the most horrible thing. There have been quite a lot of filibusters over the years. Here is a link to five recent ones (though they do say at least one was not technically a filibuster): http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/filibusters-congress-chris-murphy/ So the Dems are at it now and they will hold the floor until Thursday...then Mitch McConnell will announce the new rule on cloture will be 51 votes. There will be objections, but the new rule will then pass a vote. Once it passes (only needs 51 votes), he can order a cloture vote and the "debate" will be ended. The nominee will be confirmed. The Senate will wrap it all up in time to leave for their Easter Recess. The outcome was preordained by Reid's actions (though the Republicans could have done it now even if that had not been done, of course) and this is just a choreographed piece of political theater. |
April 5th, 2017 at 12:35:06 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
And the story behind that is, Reid and everybody else on the Dem side were so 100% sure of a landslide for Queen Hillary in 2016 that they felt comfortable in 2013 that it would be a decade before there was a chance of a Repub house, senate, and prez. They had no idea the effect Obama and his losing policies would have on the electorate in '14 and '16. This is truly a nightmare come true for them. When you think about it, they're rabid mania to get rid of Trump makes sense. This was supposed to be their show, it was guaranteed by the media. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 5th, 2017 at 7:16:23 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Back in the old days you used to have to go through old speeches by hand, or review video tape in later decades. Sometimes it would take years to find a humiliating statement from a politician. A lot of old Southern politicians had to explain that they were building careers in a more racist era. "Bob" Byrd (November 20, 1917 – June 28, 2010) was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of the Democratic Party, Byrd served as a U.S. Representative from 1953 until 1959 and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 to 2010. He was the longest-serving Senator in United States history. In December 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo: "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision—a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions." Today, of course, searching through old tweets is virtually immediate.
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April 5th, 2017 at 1:16:23 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12528 |
Fox must be desperate to get people to stop talking about the sexual predator they're stuck with in their 8pm hour. How many advertisers has BillO lost so far? “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
April 5th, 2017 at 1:39:00 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12528 |
42 as a few minutes ago. Burn baby burn! I love when bad, evil people get what's coming to them... “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |