2017 Oscars

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February 27th, 2017 at 4:45:33 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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HOLY SHIT!!!

They just had a Steve Harvey moment times 10000000!

Moonlight wins Best Picture, but presenter Faye Dunaway calls out La La Land as the winner.

The La La Land people get through their speeches before they realize the mistake.

Crazy!


Just give everyone a trophy, they all tried hard after all.
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February 27th, 2017 at 4:58:36 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I don't understand why Jimmy Kimmel was apologizing so profusely. He had nothing to do with the error.


It was a brilliant move as host. He knows that nobody is actually going to blame him in the end, and he will get kudos for defusing tension and anger while in the spotlight.

One question that I have is how do people who are not supposed to know the outcome figure out that the presenter made an error so quickly.
February 27th, 2017 at 5:35:04 AM permalink
RonC
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Avoided the show like the plague. I have sworn off of awards shows as a whole unless there is some very special tribute planned that I would like to see. There have become too many of them and I just can't listen to people thanking everyone for seemingly endless moments. The political stuff did not even come in to play in this--I haven't watched any awards show for several years. I'd rather watch something else.

I did follow it to see what Hacksaw Ridge won; we had watched the movie the night before and I thought it was really good. I don't know if it was "better" than other movies that I haven't seen since I rarely see a movie that is even nominated for "Best Picture" before the awards are given. Most of them, not even after they are given... I followed the posting of winners by a local channel to get that info.

I don't know how they made such a goof in announcing a winner...read the damn card!! Holy crap.
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February 27th, 2017 at 6:18:09 AM permalink
Wizard
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In case anyone is wondering, I completely forgot to bet and watch the awards yesterday.

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Moonlight wins Best Picture, but presenter Faye Dunaway calls out La La Land as the winner.


I wonder if the Internet casinos paid bets on LLL before the correction was made. If they did, I think they would have taken the money back.

Did anyone make a joke out of the fact that La La is the name of one of the Teletubbies?

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February 27th, 2017 at 6:44:08 AM permalink
ams288
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In case anyone is wondering, I completely forgot to bet and watch the awards yesterday.


I suspect you saved yourself a lot of money, as La La Land was the heavy favorite for Best Picture.

I knew something was amiss when it wasn't picking up some of the technical awards like Costume and the two Sound categories early on...

It's odd that the academy felt it was worthy of 14 nominations (tied for the most nominations ever for a single film), but not worthy of winning Best Picture.

I thought La La Land was "good," but certainly not Best Picture of the year.
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February 27th, 2017 at 9:50:42 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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I suspect you saved yourself a lot of money, as La La Land was the heavy favorite for Best Picture.

I knew something was amiss when it wasn't picking up some of the technical awards like Costume and the two Sound categories early on...

It's odd that the academy felt it was worthy of 14 nominations (tied for the most nominations ever for a single film), but not worthy of winning Best Picture.

I thought La La Land was "good," but certainly not Best Picture of the year.


Best Picture is a category everyone in the Academy gets to vote on. I think the desire to be politically correct encourages the voting members to make "progressive" choices. Is this better than in the past when the Academy was more exclusive, and the movie that made the most money in the box office would be the front runner, and often the eventual winner?

I am sure there are going to be several openings at Price Waterhouse Coopers today. They blew up the biggest award of the night. Egads.
February 27th, 2017 at 9:55:09 AM permalink
Nareed
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Best Picture is a category everyone in the Academy gets to vote on.


Everyone in the Academy gets to vote on every category.

For the nominations, specific sectors get to cast a vote. Actors nominate actors, editors nominate editors, etc. But many people have multiple credits that allow them to vote for nominations in several categories. For the nomination for best picture, though, everyone gets to cast a vote.


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I am sure there are going to be several openings at Price Waterhouse Coopers today. They blew up the biggest award of the night. Egads.


And this still won't quiet the Marisa Tomei Oscar Urban Legend.
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February 27th, 2017 at 10:59:43 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: Ayecarumba
Best Picture is a category everyone in the Academy gets to vote on. I think the desire to be politically correct encourages the voting members to make "progressive" choices. Is this better than in the past when the Academy was more exclusive, and the movie that made the most money in the box office would be the front runner, and often the eventual winner?

I am sure there are going to be several openings at Price Waterhouse Coopers today. They blew up the biggest award of the night. Egads.


Yeah, someone had one job... make sure the envelope you hand out has the right name of the award on the front.

I did screw up a combination lock code for a puzzle I set this weekend, so I can't be too snooty, but I wasn't being paid 5-6 figures either...
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February 27th, 2017 at 11:06:15 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I suspect you saved yourself a lot of money, as La La Land was the heavy favorite for Best Picture.


While none of the 9 BP nominations had a massive production budget, some are designed to make money, and others are clear art house movies. I would say that Hidden Figures, La La Land, Arrival, and Hacksaw Ridge were quality films that were expected to turn a profit.

The other five films were arthouse films.

While their obviously is not a clear cut distinction there really needs to be two categories and the films should be submitted in each category. I think the number of screens where the films is released could be a factor. Moonlight was showing in a max of only 650 theaters before it was nominated. La La land was showing in 1,865 theaters before it's nomination. Hidden figures in 3,416 theaters.

Films shown in order of how many theaters showing in before the nomination

$$$ Film Nominations (production budget)
18 Hidden Figures 3 ($25 million) 3,416
29 Arrival 8 ($47 million) 3,115
46 Hacksaw Ridge 6 (Not Available) 2,971
57 Fences 4 ($24 million) 2,368
20 La La Land 14 ($30 million) 1,865
94 Hell or High Water 4 ($12 million)1,505
69 Manchester by the Sea 6 (Not Available) 1,213
101 Moonlight (2016) 8 (Not Available) 650
73 Lion 6 (Not Available) 600
February 27th, 2017 at 12:25:40 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Pacomartin
While none of the 9 BP nominations had a massive production budget, some are designed to make money, and others are clear art house movies. I would say that Hidden Figures, La La Land, Arrival, and Hacksaw Ridge were quality films that were expected to turn a profit.

The other five films were arthouse films.

While their obviously is not a clear cut distinction there really needs to be two categories and the films should be submitted in each category. I think the number of screens where the films is released could be a factor. Moonlight was showing in a max of only 650 theaters before it was nominated. La La land was showing in 1,865 theaters before it's nomination. Hidden figures in 3,416 theaters.

Films shown in order of how many theaters showing in before the nomination

$$$ Film Nominations (production budget)
18 Hidden Figures 3 ($25 million) 3,416
29 Arrival 8 ($47 million) 3,115
46 Hacksaw Ridge 6 (Not Available) 2,971
57 Fences 4 ($24 million) 2,368
20 La La Land 14 ($30 million) 1,865
94 Hell or High Water 4 ($12 million)1,505
69 Manchester by the Sea 6 (Not Available) 1,213
101 Moonlight (2016) 8 (Not Available) 650
73 Lion 6 (Not Available) 600


"Fences" felt like a stage play that was shot in two days. There are only like, four different locations, with most of the film time spent in one backyard set. My guess is half the production budget was Denzel Washington's salary, with another quarter going to Viola Davis.
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